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EU makes it Illegal to sell jam/preserves in re-used jars

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Scrungee, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. Scrungee

    Scrungee Well known for it

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    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213975/Tradition-selling-jam-used-jars-breaches-EU-health-safety-rules.html#ixzz28daocFKO

    The new ones from Lakeland are ridiculously expensive (although they do have rather snazzy patterned tops).

    P.S. Good job the EU don't know about us selling soft fruit in re-used plastic punnets.
     
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    gcc3663 Knackered Grandad trying to keep up with a 4yr old

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    They have to find the bail-out money from somewhere!
     
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    • Dave W

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      Best not let on about the jar of honey and the jar of figs in syrup that a greek friend gave us to bring home a couple of weeks ago.

      We've just about finished destroying the delicious evidence anyway.:phew:
       
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        As much as I enjoy mocking the EU for their stupid rules, I wonder if this one is well intentioned.

        "Unless they are specifically designed for that purpose". I wonder if the intention here is to 'encourage' manufacturers to use jars intended for reuse?

        Alternatively, maybe they're trying to stifle capitalism. Put a few people out of business, push prices up, and force more people to venture out into the countryside to collect their own wild fruit and make their own preserves? Hmmm, probably not.
         
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        • pete

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          Just do as the French do, agree wholeheartedly, ....... and then carry on as usual.
           
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          • Phil A

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            Maybe its time to remind the EU that there wouldn't be an EU if we hadn't re used jars, dug for victory & generally made use of everything that we could lay our hands on in the last war.

            If we were ruled by the Reiche Republic then that would be the least of our problems.

            Our Parents and Grandparents didn't fight in 2 World Wars for some jumped up office clerk to tell us what we can put our jam in.

            Next time they want a hand defeating a war machine, we'll remind them of this.
             
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              One of the excuses for it is hilarious

              "Chemicals may leech from the glass"
              IMHO
              There is no problem at all with glass, so long as you sterilise the jar
              I mean babies bottles, are used over and over six times a day
              The milk man re uses the bottles day in and out for years hopefully
              My demi Johns get re-used

              STRANGE

              Jack Mch
               
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              • Phil A

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                Only problem i've had is when vinegar has attacked the metal lids, but that takes over a year normally.

                Glass will last for millenia. Only breakdown I can see is when it starts forming olivine crystals in about 5,000 years.
                 
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                That's nice of them to worry about a few stray chemicals getting into us. I live near and work in one Europe's biggest chemical works, the food I eat has routinely had all manner of chemicals added to it, even my drinking water might have chlorine and/or fluoride added. I can walk into any branch of Wilkos or B&Q or any such store and walk back out with all manner of aerosols and sprays and concentrated compounds to use without any requirement to prove I know how to use it.

                With all the exposure to potentially harmful chemicals that I'm currently exposed to, I feel such relief that at least I can safely took in to my jar of jam, made from fruit and sugars that may have been treated with all manner of things, but at least the glass isn't going to poison me, and I thank the EU for that.
                 
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                  Did you know...
                  The EU was forced to backtrack after its scientists claimed there was no proof drinking water helped with dehydration.:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                   
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                    Typical load of old rubbish! Jars are re-usable but you do need to check the lids carefully - and its best to use a grease proof paper or 'preserve paper' as an insert.

                    Technically, WI shops, and churches, village fetes etc, should check that the preserve makers have got a licence from the Environmental Health for producing foodstuffs for sale but the EH aren't going to bother checking (they may, possibly, do so for shops). EH don't have enough time to check food establishments let alone coming round to check on your preserve making environment.

                    Storm in a teacup! Sorry, I suppose I shouldn't use that term unless I check that the teacup is reusable :doh:.

                    Come to think of it, how many churches, village fetes etc check that the cups they use for selling tea and coffee comply with Health and Safety?

                    Oh Dear! :hate-shocked: What about all the homemade cakes we sell on our Open Day? :heehee:

                    EU - TF (two fingers)! :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                     
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                      I'm guessing Messrs Hartley, Robinson, Tiptree, Bonne Maman et.al will be rubbing their hands at the prospect of upping their prices in the name of packaging their preserves in some sort of non-re-useable container.

                      It's already almost impossible to find anything which comes in a glass bottle and ones with metal caps (which can be re-used for things like small amounts of homemade cordial or sauces) are as rare as hen's teeth.

                      I recently tried 4 shops in order to purchase the foil you use for re-covering (or covering your own homemade) cake boards, only to be told that it was ' ... difficult to get because 'they' don't like people making their and want you to buy new boards'. Irrespective of the fact that I had no difficulty buying it online, I don't always want round or square boards and the largest hexagonal board I could find recently was 14" - not a great deal of use for the 16" cake that was supposed to sit on it (and when I did find one, it was £7.74:thud: ).

                      And, on a slightly different topic - my local supermarket now gives me the 'option' of buying 2 pints of milk in ..... a plastic bag :frown:. They (i.e. Dairy Crest) say ' ... these bags can be recycled along with your standard carrier bags' failing to add that all-important caveat 'where facilities exist' which with my local Council, they don't. Why not just put all liquids (certainly those over 500ml) back into glass bottles?
                       
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                        I recently tried 4 shops in order to purchase the foil you use for re-covering (or covering your own homemade) cake boards, only to be told that it was ' ... difficult to get because 'they' don't like people making their and want you to buy new boards'. Irrespective of the fact that I had no difficulty buying it online,

                        Wow - I didnt even know you could buy it. What is it called if I google it?

                        Many thanks for that:)
                         
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                        I thought small scale, irregular sales, were exempt, so a harvest festival, school fete once or twice a year, etc. would be OK, but a regular WI shop, carbooter, fund raising stall, etc. would need to comply.

                        P.S. Mrs Scrungee at this very moment is hurriedly cutting out gingham covers to cover up second hand jam pot lids!
                         
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                        That's more or less correct but the line between them is rather indistinct. I tend to ignore the rules, anyway!

                        Well done Mrs Scrungee - that's the way to do it!! :yay:
                         
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