General Chat About Roses And Rose Gardens 2025

The Gardening Club is doing a joint rose order from a rose nursery near Angoulême. I was sent a big list and couldn't resist! 6€ off the price of each rose. I've ordered 11 roses. 6 will fit into beds I already have but I'm making a new bed for the five others and I'll plant perennials in between.

I have ordered - Nostalgia, Hot Chocolate, For Your Eyes Only (have one in Norfolk and it's super, Bjay gave it to me), Chandos Beauty, Chippendale (which I think is Duchess of Cornwall in the UK), Rambling Rosie for the arch, Eyes for You, then 4 small Persica roses for the rather dry Donkey Paddock border, Bravo Babylon Eyes and See You in Apricot.

Persica roses, single flowered mostly, with a dark eye, were bred from wild desert roses so they are OK with dry soil. The first five roses will go in the new bed.

 

I have a question for rose experts. A friend budded a Jude the Obscure for me this summer, as we both liked it in a neighbouring garden, and DA don't do it any more. However, in a garden centre this week I saw Natalija. It has similar apricot globular flowers and excellent perfume. (And cheaper because it isn't DA). Has anyone grown both and can tell me the difference please?

 

They don't look the same shape or colour to me @CarolineL. I haven't seen Natalija in real life though and I've never heard of her.

https://www.trevorwhiteroses.co.uk/shop/pheno-geno-roses/natalija/ The flowers look fuller and less globular and peachy pink rather than peachy yellow.

Jude the Obscure™

I think I prefer Natalija.