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Honeysuckle + trellis =

Discussion in 'NEW Gardeners !' started by Kon, Aug 9, 2019.

  1. KFF

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    Hi @Kon , as you'll realise after you've been gardening for a while, everything is down to opinion as regards to style and planting.

    I'm with @ARMANDII on this one. We both like the billowing, informal cottage style of gardening wereas others like neat little hummocks or clumps of plants/climbers that have to be trained or pruned in certain ways and be kept within their alloted space and not mingle with each other.


    In reality it's down to you to take what you think is the best for your garden/space.
     
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    • ARMANDII

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      Well, Kon, you'll find that "so called" vigorous plants don't always prove to be so for various reasons such as te location of the site and soil, and I assure it takes at least a year or two, or three before you see the Honeysuckl.e get to the state of growth that you want:dunno:

      One of things about creating a solely Honeysuckle Trellis archway is that you get a very limited season of flowering and colour whereas if you add a Clematis or climbing, repeat flowering, rose you greatly extend the interest and length of flowering/colour on what a trellis archway would be........a "statement" structure in your garden. You'll also find that planting things like hardy perennials is better when planting in 3's and 5's as it looks so much better than a solitary plant.
      It's your garden, Kon, and while people can advice you it's up to you and your ambitions for the garden on how you want it to be:love30::) You will have successes and you will have failures along the way of creating a garden that will bring a smile to your face when you look at it....all part of why we all garden.
       
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      • Kon

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        I am only teasing you, of course :smile:

        I suspect that I am also given to a more informal, cottage garden style.

        This is true of other aspects of my life. My wardrobe is rather like a cottage garden too... an odd mix of rumpled shirts, bordered by colourful socks, often mismatched :spinning:
         
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          I now that, Kon:heehee::thumbsup::whistle::heehee:


          Well, I don't know if you've seen my garden but it looks something like this......
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          Not to everyones taste, Kon, but I like it. If your wardrobe looks anything like this, then you're as mad as KFF, me, and a few others in tne GC Gang:dunno::heehee::loll::lunapic 130165696578242 5:
           
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          • Kon

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            My hair looks a wee bit like your archway
             
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              Well, that archway takes you into the garden where you can go straight on the South narrow path or onto the Southeast path, either way means you get brushed by plants on either side, which is what and visitors like.........it's a kind of tactile garden:heehee:
              I tend to break the standard rules of "expert" advice and methods and the Archway is a example where there are around 30 Clematis, with a mixture of Honeysuckle, and Perennial Sweetpeas. There's a "Generous Gardener" shrub rose right up against it on the West side, "Kings Ransom" Shrub rose right against the SouthWest side along with a Mallow, my point being is that the intense planting breaks all the rules and shaking of heads of those who have a different method and style of garden. But, in a good year, the Archway is heavy with flowers and scent as you pass through/under it and actually requires little maintenance, that being tying back the Clematis and feeding.
              We sometimes generalise too much with labelling plants as being too vigorous or being unsuitable for a site or garden and I have found over the years that Nature will surprise us and
              a labelled vigorous plant will in fact due to the site, soil, etc be well behaved and those that are supposedly well behaved are the opposite:nonofinger: But any plant that is too vigorous can be kept easily under control with a little training or pruning....but isn't that what gardening is all about? The only way to get the garden you want is to experiment and buy the plants that you want. I admit I'm a "little" extreme in my planting but ignoring the standard conventional rules and advice has, for me, paid off bring that smile to my face.

              I have the same problem.......

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                Kon, I would advise you plant slowly at first, see how things grow, see what you like..you will see other plants you like as time goes by:) no need to rush anything at all

                I grow masses of things here but all have space....plants look so much better if they have room to grow to their optimum. When I first started gardening I planted far too closely and over the years have thinned out and even removed things :) Far better to have fewer plants growing well rather than several small ones I think :)

                I have a solanum Alba on a big back wall.....pruned annually, it is currently 20’ plus across, maybe more, and over 8’ tall. Lovely thing smothered in white flowers all summer long. I have only a purple clematis that I have allowed to mingle partly with it and looks pretty good I think. However, initially I planted the solanum, pyracantha, honeysuckle and a winter jasmine there.

                Take everybody’s advice but then let yourself decide. Some folks like cottage garden styles, some grow only in containers, some like neatly trimmed gardens, some like their lawns, as I do, and some prefer something else, etc. and thus advise accordingly. Apart from that, we all have different experiences and likes that influence the advice we give or suggestions we offer.:)
                 
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                  I agree with Verdun:thumbsup:, plant slowly but plant what you think would be right for your garden and don't be too restricted by the advice in the books as, apart from the experienced specialists, there are, in my humble opinion, no experts but only experienced, knowledgeable gardeners.....who still make mistakes or suffer failures as they go along.:dunno::heehee:
                   
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