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  1. strongylodon

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    My inhouse advisor is a TA in reception at a primary school and some of them are only 4 plus, some of them have never heard of the word "no" (quite common in our language) and the disrespect they have for adults at that age is staggering! :(
     
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    :( The thing I find very worrying is. What will this generations do when they have kids of their own?? Is it set to get allot worse before it improves?? :(
    :( So many parents just issue empty threats to the kids as well & as all kids will, they soon learn this. Maybe some of the reasons for the disrespect for adults perhaps??? :(
     
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    Just a thought - what generation brought up the parents of today???. The 60's and 70's have a lot to answer for :D
     
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    Most likely the post 70's Fran. The 60s generation's parents passed down their own 30s/40s parents' values and sense of social responsibility. It was the RIGHTS without RESPONSIBILITIES ethos in the late 70s and early 80s that started the downward spiral.

    "Everyone is out of step except my little Jimmy/Jenny. And how dare you speak to him/her about it. I'll sue you and and your school if you upset him." If he kicks his teacher, it's her fault. She shouldn't have upset him and deserves what she got, the cow!"

    Been there. Got the T.shirt.

    But Lord, it's great to have stopped much as we both loved kids despite their parents.

    We could after a total of almost 60s years combined experience,write a book about parents whose noses are so far up their own derriers that they can't see what dynsfunctional kids they are raising.

    What is very worrying is the number of dysfunctional children many of the present dysfunctional generation will raise.

    [ 10. May 2006, 11:48 PM: Message edited by: Dave W ]
     
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    You've definitely got the former teachers in on this one!! I'm convinced that the root of the problem is exactly what Dave says. The number of kids who've said "You can't do that - you're not allowed to" - and stood to argue the toss over countless things. No wonder classes are in chaos and good kids are disillusioned. And no wonder there are so many ex-teachers! :mad: :mad:
     
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    I am not an ex-teacher but I so agree with them.
    Lots of children just do not respect anybody or anything, and think the world owes them a living!
     
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    [​IMG] It seems to me that allot of todays young families, have to constantly blame someone else for what has happened. Seems they cannot accept criticism. Rather than face up to life & admit they are wrong & correct problem, they blame the sufferer normally & walk away from the problem... :mad:
     
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    Wish my son luck then.... he wants to teach secondary kids when he qualifies, "he must be mad" is the usual reply but someone has to do it! [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG] I take my hat off to your son Strongy. As you say someone has to do it & some are extremely good with secondary kids. Seem tuned into them somehow. They do usually get some respect back from the kids too when that happens... There will always be at least one class nightmare.... I wish him well... [​IMG] :cool:
     
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    Despite being sadly neglected during her formative years due to both her parents being primary teachers our daughter is in now in her second year as a secondary teacher and is loving it!
    She has though at last realised why we were so utterly whacked most of the time and spent our evenings behind piles of paper! "Shussh - we'll talk to you later."

    Best of luck to your son Strongy. If he's got the motivation he'll succeed and turn into a fine teacher.And get the same kick out of the job that we did.
    I just hope the bumph, politicians, press and the very small but disproportionately time consuming number of pig ignorant parents don't get him down.
     
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    I hope so too, as his secondary education was at a church school(well behaved mainly) he has not come in to contact with some of the more aggressive yobbish pupils so that may be a rude awakening. He's got a few years of uni first but hopefully at the end of it he will get a teaching post and as he says hope to make a difference to other peoples lives. ("which is nice") [​IMG]
     
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    Good luck to him Strongy - as we all say - someone has to do it. I did it for 10 years and was worn out with it all - but some people do survive it! And many classes are a joy to teach, even in a difficult secondary school. Not all children are dreadful, just more of them are "aware of their rights". It's a hard job, but it has lots of rewarding times.
     
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    [​IMG] I have a friend who is just about to retire from secondry teaching & I have to admit, he is a game old thing & says that if he had his time again he would do it all again...! He had his fair share of trouble makers & troubles, but did have a good rapour with them overall.. Even the kids are all sorry he is going at the end of this term... :( He says if you look hard enough nearly all of them have potential somewhere. It can take a bit longer to find it in some kids that's all.....! :D
     
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    I wonder when my potential will come through :D
     
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    :D Nathan - How can you say you are wondering when your potential will come through when you are able to set up and sort a forum like this! :D :D :D

    I am setting up my own forum at the moment and there's a lot more to it than meets the eye isn't there.
    It's not a gardening forum I hasten to add - don't need another one when this one covers everything! - but I have learnt a lot from you. I've always said it's surprising what you can learn on GC.

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