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LATEST MOAN FROM YOU AND ME - 2021

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by ARMANDII, Jan 1, 2021.

  1. Snorky85

    Snorky85 Total Gardener

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    Maybe not a moan but an exclamation...


    I'm extremely tired and had hardly any sleep.
    I'm mourning my Dotty and feeling so sad.
    I've been on the go non stop.

    I have a new found respect for holiday let cleaners/owners/b&bs etc.

    Thank goodness for my mum...she's coming to rescue me!

    Just had to get that off my chest
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    • Victoria

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      @Snorky85 Sometimes we have our "down" days, but they do pass. We just have to keep our chin up, take a deep breath and keep positive thoughts.

      Enjoy your day with your Mother.

      Sending hugs and Flowers for You.jpeg Vxx

       
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      • gks

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        We have been having a ding dong with a customer who purchased 4 x 25kg bags of Blood Fish & Bone off us 6 weeks ago. He has been kicking off that he basically got 4 bags of sand, we have tried to explain that the NPK is 5-5-6 and what ever else is only a spreader. His credit card has now done a reversal and we now have to get the manufacturer to confirm the contents. He thinks that as he has bought Blood Fish & Bone then all parts should be equal, basically he thinks he should be getting more like 30-30-36.
         
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        • pete

          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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          Must admit to never looking at the NPK on FBB, but you made me go look at the tub I have, I'm quite surprised its only 3-9-3.
          And to add to the confusion they have written it round the wrong way.
          Feeling a bit cheated myself, I thought it contained more than that.
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            Just like Growmore 7-7-7. If fertiliser was more potent, how would you be able to spread it evenly. To have BF&B at 30-30-36 you are only going to need 12g over a sq meter as a top dressing. Get it wrong and the damage you would do to plants/crops would be unthinkable if you don't spread it evenly. It's just the same with liquid feeds, you need to dilute it with x amount of water before applying.
             
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              pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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              Well yes not expecting anything like 30-30-36, but 3-9-3 is a bit puny, it states 3-4 handfuls per square metre, and bearing in mind its sold by weight, it does seem a bit iffy to say the least actually how much fertiliser you are getting and how much spreader.

              I will be a bit more careful when I buy it in future, if I ever do again.;)
               
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                That's made me feel a whole lot better about not being able to get B, F & B here! I'll stick with my inorganic pellets at 15.15.15 :-) Judging by the Clematis' performance, it's good stuff!
                 
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                • pete

                  pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                  @gks , is there no standard regarding FBB, if not where is the EU when you need them?:biggrin:
                   
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                    We seem to have worked out a good way that is much cheaper. We talk to them nicely. It seems to work very well.
                     
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                      They have to state the NPK on the packaging along with application rate, there can be difference in NPK from manufacturer to manufacture. FBB and Growmore, probably the most sold fertilisers provide a balance of nutrients for a range of veg and flowering plants and are in general the cheapest to buy. When you starting getting into specialists fertilisers, especially crop specific then the costs are considerably more. The higher the fertiliser content is, so is the cost. Then you have to take into account the soil, if you have very good drainage to much fertiliser will not all be absorbed by the crops and could end up leaching into the water table.

                      You will be surprised how many people ask me how much fertiliser they need to feed their lawn. I can only tell them how much to apply per sqm, they don't know how big their lawn is, so I can't work out how much they need.
                       
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                        So basically they can add as much spreader as they like, as long as they state the NKP on the container?

                        I've got to be honest, I've always thought I was doing the best using FBB, but after this I'm thinking I'm being taken for a ride.

                        In the future I think I will stick to inorganic fertlisers, atleast with them I nearly always look at the NKP, both liquid and granule.
                        I think, as expensive as it was, the stuff I bought was a rip off.
                         
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                          No, it's a balance of vital nutrients for a range of plants, which they recommend you can use every 4-6 weeks but don't use more than the recommended dosage.

                          When I am mixing for the commercial growers I always use inorganic fertiliser. There is dialogue between us as to their requirements, most of the fertiliser we end up using for them will have sufficient nutrients for many months, most of the time they will not need any feed for 4 months plus. If the wrong dosage is added or its released to soon from the mixer, the results can be disastrous.
                           
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                            Looks like China is punishing the rest of the world for it's own polluting ways. Got this notice today from a supplier that I have dealt with for years and trust completely. They would never send out notices without fully verifying information. China seems to want to adjust our economies that have survived the pandemic. A little like going in when the battle is almost over and bayoneting the wounded, I'd say!!

                            "All upholstered seating from China (including leather) will now have a new ‘anti-dumping’ duty applied to them…effective immediately. This duty seems to range from 101% to 300%...that’s right 300%!!!

                            We are contacting all of our suppliers to get a list of all their products that might be affected by this new duty. One of our suppliers told me that a chair that sold last week for $489 (designer price) would now have to sell for $1,498 with this new duty applied!!!! Needless to say, they immediately discontinued that item.

                            We think that most suppliers that have products affected by these new duties will also delete them from their product mix. We have checked all of our in house orders, and we don’t think that there are any orders that have products affected by these new anti-dumping tariffs.


                            All upholstered seating from China or Vietnam (including leather) will now have a new ‘anti-dumping’ duty applied to them…effective immediately. This duty seems to range from 101% to 300%...that’s right 300%!!!

                            We are contacting all of our suppliers to get a list of all their products that might be affected by this new duty. One of our suppliers told me that a chair that sold last week for $489 (designer price) would now have to sell for $1,498 with this new duty applied!!!! Needless to say, they immediately discontinued that item.

                            We think that most suppliers that have products affected by these new duties will also delete them from their product mix. We have checked all of our in house orders, and we don’t think that there are any orders that have products affected by these new anti-dumping tariffs."
                             
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                              That seems like China are going kill their own market. :rolleyespink:
                               
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                                I thought it was the importing countries that impose anti-dumping duties, not the exporting countries. It seems more like Canada, I assume, are to impose anti-dumping tariffs on China. Or am I misinterpreting what your saying.
                                 
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