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  1. shiney

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    At the moment the government site says that wrinklies such as me won't be required to have digital ID. I wonder how long that will last!

    I'm not sure how much it will stop illegal employment either :noidea:

    As a Grumpy Old Man (GOM for those of you that like to use acronyms :heehee:) I shall enjoy being as awkward as possible. That has been my mission in life for many years. :loll:
     
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      I'm not normal can't read,write, spell, hear and never claim any benefits but got though life, may be it's time for me to start claiming just i can
       
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        I thought I read something like starting at age 13, but didn't notice an upper age at which you wouldn't need it.
        What age are they quoting.
         
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        I think you need it beyond death, @pete. Big data will find a way to make money out of your digital footprint even once you are truly "virtual". ;)
         
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            @Obelix-Vendée, I do think the potential for antibiotics to have played a role in the huge spike in autism is certainly worth researching. The women who had babies from the 90s onwards were themselves born in the 60s and 70s, when antibiotic use in childhood was widespread. Factor in that Caesarean births have also increased dramatically and babies born by that method are routinely given antibiotics at birth, and you may have a double whammy - a mother with compromised biodiversity and a baby whose immune system should kickstart when they swallow and inhale bacteria from the birth canal suddenly has that opportunity wiped out.

            Of course, there will be other factors at play, but I think the possible downsizes of antibiotic use on long term human health merit research.
             
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              We got the same e mail response too @ViewAhead , this morning. A typical civil service letter. More secure than showing a physical document!? Don’t think so. The hackers will be waiting with bated breathe. Think I’ll hide all my money under the mattress.:rolleyespink:





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                Then don't let anyone know where you live. :whistle:
                 
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                  @ViewAhead my daughter was born by Caesarian - big and footling breach so not coming out the usual way - but was just given vitamin K as standard and a hearing test for which we paid 20€. She had all her jabs but was breast fed and then home made food with very few ready-made pots of weaning food and has grown up strong and healthy.

                  We do have a great nephew on the autism spectrum and his mother bottle fed then weaned him on sugary industrial yogurts and such and happily took the funding once we was assessed but never made a move to get him help and he's just got worse and will now never hold down a job. At one point in his teens he was accepted for a placement and training in a forensic lab where his nit picky nature would have been an asset but she refused as it was 10 miles away from home. Maddening.
                   
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                  Oh, I'm not suggesting Caesarean births per se "cause" autism, just that in a web of complex factors, it could be the tipping point for some children. Antibiotic use is a "genie out of a bottle" situation. There's no going back. And many millions of lives have been saved by their use, no question. But if you are researching the causes of autism, it is a factor worth considering in the mix.

                  Say, for example, there are 6 "eventualities" that make autism more likely. A child could encounter 5 of these and still not be affected ... or only one and be at the severe end of the spectrum. That is what makes research so tricky.
                   
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                    Given the great variations in quality of maternity care it wouldn't surprise me if some health authorities throw antibiotics just in case @ViewAhead.

                    I also think that, given the clear links between the stomach and the brain, paying more attention to nutrition would pay dividends for all sorts of illnesses including anxiety, depression, autism and dementia.
                     
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                      From my own eyes, along with comments from nearly everybody I know.
                       
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                      I'm certainly not suggesting that autism isn't real. The problem seems to be the desire to label everybody with something. The autistic spectrum ranges from being barely perceptible to very severe.
                      Looking at the 'symptoms' Almost everybody I know has 'suffered' from one of the symptoms - 'appearing not to hear when spoken directly to'. My sister-in-laws 2 grandkids are masters of it. Hearing miraculously works normally when asked if they want a piece of cake.
                      DWP payment of benefits has exploded over the past few years, in large part due to everybody demanding a diagnosis and doctor's giving one in order to get them back out the door.
                       
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                      Although that seems to be the standard government response (at the moment :whistle:) it appears that children under 13 and pensioners who don't work will not be compelled to have one.

                      That doesn't mean to say that a bank will take you on as a customer if you are in that category. They are quite likely to claim that you would need to show citizenship under the current banking rules for Anti-Money Laundering (AML) legislation, primarily the Money Laundering, Terrorist Financing and Transfer of Funds Regulations 2017 (MLR 2017).

                      Banks may insist on verification even if you have been their customer for 50 years - but you may still not need a digital ID as it is not necessary for complying with the law. They usually ask for a copy of a passport, or driving licence or photo ID.
                       
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