London Bridge

Too late now, but at least this time he has been dealt with properly.
And he won't be a problem anymore.

Just sad that so much taxpayers money gets wasted on this kind of scum.

 

My thoughts go out to every single person caught up in yesterday's horrendous tragedy......the brave who put aside their own safety to apprehend the man, those who were injured, familes/ friends that are left grieving , people who were witnesses and are left with the fear and images for ever more and last but definitely not least to all the emergency services for their quick response to bringing a quick and appropriate end to this most awful situation.

 

To those brave folk who wrestled that prat to the ground I have nothing but massive admiration for them and ofcourse all our emergency services.

 

watched the news on TV this morning about this . So sad. So much evil in the world.

 

When ever I read or hear about a terrorist attack, I can never put my feelings into words. This kind of event is always too personal for me for a couple of reasons. One is that some years ago, I was just a short distance from an explosion caused by terrorists.

The second is far more personal. Many years ago, there was a certain girl that I liked, and liked me. Perhaps, if I had asked her out, and we had ended up getting married, theres a good possibility that her son would not have been killed by terrorists.

Bare this in mind with my following words. There is no point whatsoever in killing a terrorist. Especially a radical muslim. None. Thats because its what they what to happen. They see death as something that gives them glory! Thats possibly the reason the one in this instance had a fake bomb belt. In effect, he goaded the Police into shooting him dead.

Neither is putting them in prison an alternative. Do that, and they have the chance to radicalise others, and therefore increase the number of potential attacks.

There is only one way to reduce these attacks. Its to humiliate the person that, and theres a very simple way of doing that! The big problem is, no politician, left or right has the courage to bring in legislation to enable it to be done. Rather than me saying how it could be done - which I'm not going to - think of ways yourselves!

 

Not being a muslim,
I'm not sure what humiliates them.
I remember a bloke at work once gave one a friendly kick up the arse and he went spare,.... maybe hit him with your shoe?

Personally if this particular one had been dealt with properly in the first place he wouldn't have still been around to kill two people the second time.
As they say, or is it just me?
The only good terrorist is a dead one.

 

What will humiliate Muslims will be what humiliates most 'good 'normal people. A kick up the arse ....friendly or not would make me go 'spare' too!!!
All the Muslims I know ..including hubs are very polite and treat people with great respect and good manners. Us Brits tend to have a quirky sense of humour that needs explaining to a lot of people from other countries, believe me I've had years of explaining to hubs and our many friends from all corners of the world.A friendly ' kick up the arse ' would probably appear offensive to many.

A good terrorist of any nationality is a dead one, and I say that with great sadness.

 

I'm not sure about the humiliation, apart from the elder, respected muslim community to totally condemn this kind of behaviour and shame the person who did it, and those who pushed and coached him to this idiotic act. Islam faith is based on humility, generosity, doing the right thing and just being good. The idiots who have taken select parts of the tradition to justify their lust of power are no good muslims in any account.

Echoing the many Christian "leaders" who are doing just that all the time, condemning homosexuality or women or Jews or giraffes, whatever makes them to look like a strong leader.

I have personally had two halting moments.

One was the young suicide bomber somewhere, don't recall where... she was a young woman with severe learning difficulties and was used to walk into a checkpoint and told to press a button on her vest. She didn't, and the story was told to the international press. If she had, it would have been just another terrorist suicide attack, instead of a disabled youth used as a tool.

The other one was a Moroccoan elderly lady, a very devout Muslim, I taught to Google many years ago (actually, to Altavista ) On the way back we talked about living in a strange country, away from our roots, amongst strangers. She told me that ultimately she wants to have a decent life and her biggest hope is that her children will have a better life. Her god is benevolent, and she was doing the best she can to be a good muslim and to make a good life for her children.

How very true, that's what it's all about. We all want a decent life, and want our children to do well. Unfortunately there are also power hungry idiots who take any opportunity to cause havoc to boost their own sense of power. Taliban leaders. Hitler. Various "islamic" sects. Various "Christian" sects.

 

Does it matter what nationality, religon etc a person is. Basically a terrorist causes others to live in fear. I remember the acts of the IRA on mainland England. Woolwich in South East London was affected many times. Due to their unlawful acts and total disregard for others, human life and property meant nothing. The innocent had their freedom and comfort of everyday life taken from them.

Here in GB we as did many nations across the world had rules and regulations, called laws. Many of these laws or at least the principles of them, were Bible based. Usually laws would offer some protection and make a possible perpetrator think twice before committing a crime. Britain also had laws, one relating to murder.

In the 1960's lots of legal wranglings took place to bring about the abolition of the then know Death Penalty. I had some memories of this and often recalled that even after much of the Act being done away with, that a few penalties such as. Killing a police officer or appointed law officer. Terrorism. Treaso etc were to remain as carrying the death penalty. So I did a bit of research. Please have a read of. https://www.deathpenaltyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/DPP-50-Years-on-pp1-68-1.pdf

So now in all honesty there is no deterrant. For the terrorist. OK, I do my worst to kill, maim and mentally destroy others, so what? I get caught and go to prison for a period sentence. I get all the care available whilst inside. Then suddenly I am let out again. Usually the sentence is called LIFE. It used to be thought life was in the region of three score years and ten. Now in most cases a sentence of fifteen years is termed life. Today's pathetic legal/justice sytem is a joke. If such criminals are to be spared the death penalty. Then at least give some comfort and support to the innocent, and lock these murders up for life, until they draw their last breath. Make their lives HELL.

 

I've never understood the term "a life sentence", to me it means life, until death.
But the crazy legal system still appies that stupid term, and the criminal walks in about 10 yrs

I think like a lot of things in this country it needs bringing into the modern world, if you give someone 10 yrs for god's sake say that, dont come out with stupid terminology.

 

I am Pete but it would be extremely insulting to the good Muslims of our world.(plus I'd get banned..
As in all walks of life there is good and bad it's just a shame the bad seem to have the knack to tar everyone with the same brush no matter how hard we try just to get on with our lives.

 

It would be insulting around, not to just the 'good Muslims '

 

That's why I'm keeping it zipped.