Looks like a Sea around the Mump

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  1. Jiffy

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    Yes, please

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    @Scrungee Thank you for the info about quote in a quote :dbgrtmb:
     
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      [quote="Jiffy, post: 773120, member: 9753"][quote]Scrungee said: ↑ @[USER=9753]Jiffy[/USER] What, like this - nested quotes?[/quote]Yes, please[/quote]
       
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        I read in a tabloid today Cameron blaming Labour in the 90's for NOT dredging , its 2014 !!!!
         
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          They did slow down dredging etc during the Labour Government reign but all Governments have continued, against constant advice and warnings, to carry on not dredging and generally doing vital maintenance work............all to save a few pennies. This Government is cutting back and cutting back in all areas without regard to consequences to people and now it's being forced [a] to admit that dredging is an important part of helping ease the drainage release funds for the dredging etc while acting as though they are the Hero's of the Hour by doing so.:coffee: How many other areas are they making decisions that will affect people in the future?.......and according to an economic "think tank" the Government is not halfway through the cuts. Such short sighted thinking by any Government, of any colour, concerned only with the bottom line and political "glory" endangers life and property and costs the country far more millions due to the ensuing damage than maintaining rivers, ditches, drains. But it is their ability to ignore all the criticisms and act as though they have been in control, even though their lack of control, ignoring of advice over the years has partly caused the problem.
           
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              There have been a lot of sightings of periscopes in the area, Jack, but no torpedoes. Having said that I'm sure that if Lord Smith, Chairman of the EA, and Owen Paterson, Minister of the EA, took to a boat to survey the floods there might be a few white tracks in the water.:coffee::snork::heehee:
               
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              • Phil A

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                Not heard the estimates for this flood yet, but the 2007 floods cost the economy £3.2 Billion.

                Wonder how much they saved by not dredging?
                 
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                  • pete

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                    Has anyone any real proof that dredging a river that is very nearly at sea level, would actually make much difference?
                    I can understand that for those concerned this is a terrible time, but, everyone seems to have just latched on to the dredging effect, has anyone noticed its been raining a lot more than usual?
                    I cant remember such a sustained wet spell of weather before now, it was very wet in autumn 2000, but it was not this long as I remember.
                     
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                    Well, I would have thought the natural laws of Physics would say that if you if make a channel wider and deeper it will help make the flow of the water [a] slow down take up some of the load and ease the extra flow of water when in flood although not the complete answer to the problem.:dunno::scratch:
                     
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                    Yeah, but I'm still struggling with this below sea level thing.
                    Am I right in thinking that the rivers are tidal and are banked up to stop flooding during high tides, the water then being pumped out at low tide?
                     
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                    I'm not sure, Pete, but I think the power of gravity and the lunar effect help in pushing the flow of the river out into the estuary.:dunno::scratch::snork:
                     
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                    Like the Thames ? Seems to.

                    None of the levels are below sea level, like London, we've got tidal rivers that are banked against flooding. I'm sure if you checked the spot heights in London they would be similar to down here.
                     
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                      Here's an experiment that every kid that grows up on the coast has (or should have - if they're not stuck indoors nowadays) done many times over.

                      You go down onto the beach, below the hide tide line, and the sand is clearly wet, with the water just marginally below the surface. You dig a hole, and it fills with water as fast as you can dig it. You then start digging a trench from the 'well' towards the water's edge at low tide. Lo and behold, you get so far and suddenly your well starts to drain, with the water heading down the trench. After a short time, sand being quite unstable, the trench fills back up with sand, and lo and behold, your 'well' fills up once again as water held in the sand surrounding it seeps into it.

                      As far as I can see, dredging the rivers is just a giant version of the same trick.
                       
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                        Ok, so they are not actually below sea level.
                        So why is it only happening in Somerset?
                        We have flooding here, lots of fields are under water, but not on the same scale, there must be something very different with the levels, as I understand it, not all Somerset is flooded.
                         
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