New Tree for the Garden

Discussion in 'Trees' started by Dorset-Tim, Dec 20, 2025 at 4:04 PM.

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    That's what I would do now, after a previous mistake! It depends whether @CostasK likes the tree and wants to try to keep it.
     
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      Thanks @Plantminded and @Escarpment and apologies @Dorset-Tim for using your thread for my query.

      I will need to decide whether I have the patience to see the experiment through. In general, I am not the most patient person ever, and I do tend to jump on opportunities to buy new plants :whistle:

      In my case, it could be that the best "tree" is not even a tree. It could be a very tall grass for instance. Or a shrub.

      Here is a quick photo of the area by the way. Please pretend you can't see the horrible "chargrilled effect" caused by the paint coming off the screening :biggrin:

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        Is the screening the boundary between you and a neighbour? You will have to keep the tree the size of a hedge if it is. It's planted quite close to the screen.
         
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          I think you need something evergreen to hide that screening :biggrin:.
           
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            Hi @Busy-Lizzie When I looked into it, that guidance only applies when you have an actual hedge. It does not if it's a solidary tree. If we weren't allow to break up the fence line, gardens with the same arrangement as mine would be very boring.

            @Plantminded either that, or replace the screening :biggrin:

            Of course I wouldn't get something that would completely shade the garden behind me, or that I would allow to get too big. I always aim to be sensible and considerate of my neighbours (even though that specific one isn't himself, at all, so I feel slightly less inclined to go the extra mile).
             
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              Hello @CostasK. I'm Busy-Lizzie, not Lizzie27.

              I live in France a lot of the time where it is forbidden to grow trees higher than 2 metres that close to a boundary fence. The rest of the time I'm in Norfolk where the neighbour's Leylandii and Acer shade a lot of our garden and dump leaves and twigs into it.
               
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              Thanks @Busy-Lizzie I realised my mistake and edited the post right before you pointed that out :biggrin:

              Leylandii are awful. And actually there were a couple across that boundary when I bought the house. I am only interested in trees and shrubs which are manageable and not overly dense (in general, not just for that spot)
               
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                Even with a hedge, it only applies to evergreens / semi-evergreens and it's difficult to enforce. The aggrieved person has to pay a fee to pursue a high hedge dispute. There is no rule covering the height of individual trees whether evergreen or not.
                 
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                  How close is "that close" and who decides? A full grown tree right in the centre of most of our little gardens would provide a significant amount of shading to neighbouring gardens.
                   
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                  We have a copper beech hedge and a copper beech thing. The thing was a volunteer plant but because I like them I let it grow. The benefit of beech, as I see it, is they can be manipulated into anything you want. I'm playing with it a little in a bonsai kind of way to make a small tree like form. They might reach parkland tree size in a few hundred years but can be cut and started again if you want to control it's growth. Might be worth playing with it unless you do want something completely natural. I have rowans already for that in my garden so am just using the beech more experimentally.
                   
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                    In France a tree has to be planted at least 2m from the boundary, but that doesn't apply in the UK so long as it doesn't cause damage.
                     
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                      Thank you @Thevictorian That's very interesting indeed. It sounds quite similar to my plan for that beech tree. I also want a small tree-like form (maybe around 3 - 3.5 m tall and relatively narrow). I don't want it to look rectangular, or massacred (e.g. bluntly taking the top off) - I want it to have a nice shape that doesn't feel really unnatural but from there on I am flexible.
                       
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