Preformed versus liner pond

noisette47 · Mar 2, 2018

+1 for Butyl with one caveat.....don't plant bamboo anywhere near it! Bamboo shoots go through 2 layers of carpet and a good-quality liner like a knife through butter, as I found out last year To be fair, it wouldn't surprise me if they went through fibreglass and concrete as well....

luciusmaximus · Mar 2, 2018

Verdun said: ↑
However, lucius go for your gut instinct......go for good quality, best quality if you can, and either will be fine. As long as the levels are right and you get some planting done, inside and outside the pond, your finished pond will be great
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Well, I thought the bath was a good idea and I still think that, although I agree it may never look completely natural with its surrounding environment. However, I quite like the idea of the bath becoming a herb garden, so I still have need of a pond

martin-f · Mar 2, 2018

Its your garden Luci do what you want with it, you don't have to please anyone but yourself , theirs nothing wrong with the bath theirs nothing wrong with a liner theirs nothing wrong with a preformed liner its down to personal choice, if you listen to all of us you will have a large selection of water features and no garden left .

luciusmaximus · Mar 2, 2018

martin-f said: ↑
Its your garden Luci do what you want with it, you don't have to please anyone but yourself , theirs nothing wrong with the bath theirs nothing wrong with a liner theirs nothing wrong with a preformed liner its down to personal choice, if you listen to all of us you will have a large selection of water features and no garden left .
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There's advantages and disadvantages to all three. I was just interested in hearing what others have to say. I'm looking at a preformed pond on ebay, which sounds a bargain, but as I can't find it for sale anywhere else on the internet I have to wonder why

Bermuda Lynn Preformed Pond Extremely Cheap 510lts ( Dpd Delivery) | eBay

martin-f · Mar 2, 2018

luciusmaximus said: ↑
There's advantages and disadvantages to all three
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True its personal choice Luci , another reason for me getting a preformed was £ i didn't want to spend lots of money and a good quality liner dose not come cheap, i sat and waited for something cheap turning up local to me,

Have a look through this link Luci theirs plenty of types new and used .
preformed pond - Shopadilly.co.uk

kindredspirit · Mar 4, 2018

With my bigger pond I used concrete with glass fibres and with the two smaller ones I bought round cattle troughs from a farmers' hardware place, complete with ballcocks, and ne're a bother.

ARMANDII · Mar 4, 2018

Redwing said: ↑
They don't look very natural though, IMO.
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It all depends how you do it, Redwing. If you took a walk around my wildlife pond which was laid with a butyl liner with a 12 inch overlap all the way around you would never know that there was butyl there. I buried the liner into the bank soil and then after planting some marginal plants and letting Nature self seed plants within a year it was looking natural. Even the crates that I planted the marginals in have disappeared under the natural growth of plants, both bank and marginals, while the black of the bottom lining also disappeared under the water making it's 36 inch depth look even deeper.

Redwing · Mar 4, 2018

@ARMANDII , that comment was referring to the preformed liners and the pictures posted by wiseowl, not flexible or butyl liners.

ARMANDII · Mar 4, 2018

Hi Redwing, my mistake I must admit I've never seen a natural looking preformed pond but it all comes down to peoples personal taste and styles of gardens.

Freddy · Mar 5, 2018

ARMANDII said: ↑
It all depends how you do it, Redwing. If you took a walk around my wildlife pond which was laid with a butyl liner with a 12 inch overlap all the way around you would never know that there was butyl there. I buried the liner into the bank soil and then after planting some marginal plants and letting Nature self seed plants within a year it was looking natural. Even the crates that I planted the marginals in have disappeared under the natural growth of plants, both bank and marginals, while the black of the bottom lining also disappeared under the water making it's 36 inch depth look even deeper.

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That’s a cracking pond, looks so natural Could we have some wider shots?

ARMANDII · Mar 5, 2018

Freddy said: ↑
That’s a cracking pond, looks so natural Could we have some wider shots?
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I'll have to dig around for the long shots, Freddy, I'm glad you like it. It looks natural as I've over planted it with Ferns, Flag Irises, Sedges, and other grasses on the banks, with all kinds of Marginals to soften the water edges.

Freddy · Mar 5, 2018

ARMANDII said: ↑
I'll have to dig around for the long shots, Freddy, I'm glad you like it. It looks natural as I've over planted it with Ferns, Flag Irises, Sedges, and other grasses on the banks, with all kinds of Marginals to soften the water edges.
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It’s the Ferns that really caught my eye, love those Not sure about the Lettuce though

ARMANDII · Mar 5, 2018

Freddy said: ↑
Not sure about the Lettuce though
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Errrr, Lettuce?........Oh, you mean the .......

American Skunk Cabbage [Lysichiton Americanus]

It's a cracking plant and gives those yellow Spathes which really stand out. It's about 24 years old [I think I bought it for around £1.50p as a tiny plant] , sitting in a large plastic crate by a natural stone [from Bala in Wales] waterfall which I use when the weather is really hot.

The Gate to the pond

It's hidden away so that it's a surprise for anyone coming upon it.

On the West Bank there are around eleven different varieties of climbing roses

Where I sit, usually with one of the Cats, with a Mug of Tea or Glass of the Red Stuff completely hidden out of the way while I contemplate the World

luciusmaximus · Mar 6, 2018

It's so wonderful and looks like a totally natural pond. Love the Urn waterfall .

Sandy Ground · Mar 6, 2018

luciusmaximus said: ↑
It's so wonderful and looks like a totally natural pond. Love the Urn waterfall .
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@luciusmaximus I could not agree more. Even if my taste in gardens is more on the formal side, that is, to my eyes at least, exactly the way a pond should look. @ARMANDII congratulations on a job well done.

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