Red Rum Rose - HELP? - no longer available - new name?

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    Hi Woo , its a no from the other site , but they did suggest the;

    Amateur Rose Breeders Association, or the British Rose Breeders Association.

    Have you been in contact with them , also they mentioned "Bee nurseries" not famed for rose breeding !
     
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      Good evening @Spruce my friend many many thanks for trying,its getting to be a bit of an enigma,usually there are signs of a roses existence somewhere along the line when you are searching for it,this ones vanished without trace,I will try and contact the two associations you have kindly suggested and again thank you,enjoy your evening:smile:
       
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        talking to you Woo makes it so much nicer :ccheers::pathd:
         
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          Good evening @Spruce my friend ,yes I have Arthur Bell and some of our friends have Handel they are both outstanding Roses I was just a tad younger I would breed off of them and name the new Rose" Gardeners Corner";)
           
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            well lots of time Woo , you do a bit of breeding I am sure Mrs Woo would like to join in :heehee:
             
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              Good evening @Spruce Mrs Woo thought you said weeding:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
               
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                I've been watching this thread, I do hope the rose comes to light one way or the other. :)

                If the parent roses of 'Red Rum' are 'Arthur Bell' and 'Handel' then surely it's offspring would be 'Red Rum' again Woo, if you were to breed them? :)

                Would it be worthwhile putting an appeal on Facebook to see if anyone has it?
                 
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                  Good morning @Sheal it was meant as a tribute to Gardeners Corner and with a touch of light hearted humour my friend;) enjoy your day:smile:
                   
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                    Wow - I had no idea this was going to be such a challenge! WiseOwl with the amount of sleuthing you have done on this project you should have been a detective!


                     
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                      No worries @cazza quin and thank you,:smile:

                      Good evening @Spruce I have been in contact with the ARBA and the BRBA as you so kindly suggested but they couldn't help in our search,I must add that all in all 18 Rose nurseries and the 6 Rose associations were very helpful,the American Rose society were most polite and sent me 4 emails as did a Rose forum in Italy,I'm still waiting for an answer from the Australian Rose association,and from the Southport local paper,but I am still on the case;)
                       
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                        I am starting to wonder if it was one off with only so many grafted to sell ?
                         
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                          The frustrating thing is....there is probably somebody or more than one person in the UK admiring this rose in their own garden and hasn't got a clue that it's being hunted. :doh::)

                          @wiseowl a gold star for your efforts so far! :star:
                           
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                            Good evening @Sheal and thank you,I just wish at least I could get a photo of it,if only they had a TV programme that searched for lost Roses;)
                             
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                              It's proving very illusive isn't it Woo? I wonder if it's worth trying to contact a gardening celebrity to see if they can help.
                               
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                                how about getting touch with the Liverpool echo
                                 
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