Rose bushes and glyphosphate

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  1. Notrub

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    If rose bushes are pruned back to wood and allowed to seal, would they be unaffected by glyphosphate?

    My mother has a number of beds containing old rose bushes that are surrounded by brambles and horsetails and it would be far easier to deal with if we could simply blanket spray the whole area several times.
     
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      Good evening @Notrub Roses are highly susceptible to glyphosphate and sealed cane ends or not I wouldn't fancy their chances at all:smile:

      Glyphosate (e.g. Roundup, SBM Job done General Purpose Weedkiller or Doff Glyphosate Weedkiller) damage shows as leaf yellowing and browning, and shoots collapse on soft-stemmed plants. Roses and raspberries are particularly sensitive to glyphosate from July onwards. This causes stunting and leaf malformation, which may not be evident until the following season. Roses produce clusters of short, often pale shoots appear that resemble mini witches’ brooms.

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        Pruning allowed to seal on any shrub
        Glyphsophate sprayed onto Roses, or any other shrubs, will be stored in them whether pruned or not and if it doesn't kill them then and there will certainly affect them the following year by at the very least stunting them and growth of the leaves becoming narrow. I would not advise any blanket spraying and would use great caution if you decided to spray the soil around the Roses as should any of the Glyphosphate get on the stems it will kill them.:coffee::cat-kittyandsmiley:
         
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          Hi Notrub, I wonder whether the solution would be to prune, bag up the roses in heavy-duty bin bags, then spray? Once the glypho is dry, there shouldn't be any ill effects to the roses. You're right in thinking that you'll need to spray more than once, but subsequent re-growth could be dealt with by spraying into a cut-off plant pot placed around the weed.
           
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            Given you have both bramble and horsetail in with the roses I would be tempted to lift the roses this winter, plant into a clean area and then next spring clean out the weeds and replant the roses when you are sure the area is clear of the problem.
             
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              If you lift them you would need to wash off all the soil as there is likely to be bits of horsetail caught in the soil. It only takes a tiny bit to regrow.
               
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                Such a mix.
                Firstly may I suggest members check-out Glyphoste on wikipedia. It will save me loads of typing. Fair do's , and I respect members comments.

                Might I ask. Roses, brambles and marestail. To what areas, quantaties are we talking about. Please be fair. The original post could have been. I have three rose bushes, HT's. they are growing in aptch surrounde by brambles, etc. Using glyphosate what might the problems be.?

                To me. I would ask myself. Do I take, perhaps the easy way out and spray or do I dig out the brambles etc.

                As a rosarian. I'm sure that my Hon. Friend. Wise Owl will agree. Roses are strong and hardy but. They do not respond to being root disturbed. So. The idea of lifting, washing etc is a NO GO. If there is a love etc for the roses. Then concentrate on the invaders.
                Brambles can be cut down to soil level and the dug out. In all cases, if top growth is heavy and mature. Get rid of this first. Cut down, dig out. Then as new growth may appear. Selectively treat. Honestly. all this. Dig up etc the roses. Guys. What the bazes are you thinking. Science, common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? hells bells.
                 
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