Rose Obelisk - Inside or Outside?

Advice please. I have just bought a metal obelisk for my new climbing rose (Generous Gardener). The obelisk is sturdy and 2m tall but quite a light frame (visually). We will be viewing it from three sides.

For ease of training and best effect. Do I plant my rose inside the obelisk or outside

 

I grew a Warm Welcome rose up a 2m tall obelisk a couple of years ago @Butterfly6. I planted it inside the obelisk in the middle as it looked better visually and was easier to train and water. I've done the same this year with an annual climber. (The rose didn't like my sandy soil and was always losing leaves due to blackspot, despite its first class treatment !)

 

Sorry, I think the opposite. I planted a Strawberry Hill outside a 6ft tall obelisk as I found out the hard way that it is virtually impossible to prune out old, thick stems at the base if you need to in the future. Certainly using loppers wasn't an option.

 

I hadn’t thought that far ahead, @lizzie27, good point

 

I think it depends how wide your obelisk is at the base @Butterfly6, and the design. Mine’s quite easy to access.

 

Yes, I think I’ll test it out re access once it arrives. Thinking at the moment, is that if I can get my loppers in, then I’ll plant it inside

 

Best of luck with this. It will be fine for a couple of years but you may feel overwhelmed by the rose after that, and your obelisk certainly will. Hopefully you can keep it within bounds but it will want to grow very large indeed. 10-12 feet canes throwing up in due course.
Your support structure will have to be firmly fixed in the ground to hold it, and likely you will lose some of its height by doing so. It's a rose really best suited to a wall.

Been there, and done that, so to speak..

'The Generous Gardener' planted in the middle of a 2m obelisk.. breaking out and up and away it went.. Eventually I had to remove the rose, and it was a big job getting the obelisk out, as the roots had entangled around it and would not release. It also made getting the rose out a complicated process.


My advice, plant outside and angle it. Also consider the direction. It is best to plant the rose on the north side of an obelisk, as new shoots will tend to grow east/southwards, providing it's not blocked by shrubs.
The new growth shown above, is heading due south.

 

.. at this point it reached the top of the obelisk, after 2 years I think, it was quite slow to start.
Growing with a deeper pink rose.


..the top of the obelisk is on the left.. I had to tie rope in place and to another structure on the right and train it along..


You will need to keep it within its support. Good luck, it's a lovely rose and big hips in autumn.

 

I've always grown my roses inside the obelisk. They've all been ok and easy to prune so far. But perhaps depending on size of obelisk, both ways would work