Semi-ornamental edibles...

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  1. Fat Controller

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    Don't be harsh on yourself, it is easy done. Just about to head to work, so will look later on - thank you :)
     
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    I've started getting seeds together for next year, not least because Seed Parade have one of their sales on...

    Courgette All Green Bush 30 seeds
    Hot Pepper - Cayenne Red 25 seeds
    Tomato Black Cherry 100 seeds
    Cucumber Burpless Tasty Green F1 Hybrid 15 seeds
    Cauliflower All The Year Round 200 seeds
    Carrot Nantes 2000 seeds
    Tomato Alicante 100 seeds
    Beetroot Detroit 2 400 seeds
    Brussels Sprout Evesham Special 250 seeds
    Cucamelon 15 seeds
    Hot Pepper - Prairie Fire 10 seeds
    Hot Pepper Basket of Fire F1 8 seeds
    Kale Nero di Toscana 1000 seeds
    Leek Giant Winter 400 seeds
    Melon Charentais 10 seeds
    Onion - Spring - Ishikura 500 seeds
    Rhubarb Chard 200 seeds
    Sweet Pepper - Californian Wonder 50 seeds
    Sweetcorn Goldcrest F1 40 seeds
    Swiss Chard Rainbow Mixed 200 seeds
    Tomato Craigella 50 seeds
    Tomato Marmande 100 seeds
    Coriander 500 seeds
    Tomato Black Krim 25 seeds
    Mixed Oriental Leaves 1000 seeds
    Sweet Pepper Long Red Marconi 50 seeds
    Winter Squash - Waltham Butternut 20 seeds
    Tomato Gigantomo F1 5 seeds
     
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    Don't go buying toms Marmande and Black Cherry, or coriander seed! I'll send you some
     
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      Ah sugar, too late, that list was copy and paste from the order. :redface: In fairness, the most expensive was 99p a pack, and the coriander was only 20p. Thanks for the offer though, it is much appreciated :)
       
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      No probs :) That's quite a smallholding you're going to have next year!:biggrin: x
       
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        @longk I hadn't realised it was edible. Can you eat it raw like spinach? Are all parts edible? I'm asking because it comes up like weeds in my borders, I let a few grow into sizeable plants as I like the flowers.
         
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          Do you have wall space for an old-fashioned small yellow tomato? Happy to send you some yellow pear tomato seeds. I zigzag the plants against fencing wire as a trellis on a warm wall. This is because the cordon wants to grow about 10 foot tall! Small, sweet and well- flavoured toms from July until late November normally....
           
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            Oooh, now they do sound nice @Sian in Belgium :)

            I have fences that I can arrange wire for things to scramble up/tie to, so if you could spare a few seeds they would be gratefully received. Goes without saying, if there is any seeds/bulbs etc that you are looking for, just say the word?
             
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              Another type of Kale that I found good to grow and looks interesting enough to work as an ornamental is "Red Russian".

              I also think red currants and blue berry shrubs can look nice.
               
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                I am starting to think about when I should be sowing these and have compiled the following list - I'd welcome suggestions as to when best to sow, preferably without having to resort to heating the greenhouse. I'd also welcome comments/suggestions on planting positions:

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                  Umm in my opinion 16 out of the 27 need help to start and continue them growing...

                  I'm answering like this as it does not fit in with your greenhouse plan.

                  Steve...:)
                   
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                    Space is definitely limited in the greenhouse, but if I can move things around a bit, I will. As always, I appreciate any advice you can offer :)
                     
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                      Carrots and Beetroot are the only ones I would sow outdoors, and for the last two seasons I have module started and raised beetroot, leaving only Carrot to sow outdoors.

                      Melons, and peppers including chillis will need to be grown undercover, either greenhouse or largish cold frame. Possibly toms and cucs too, again dependant on your weather. I would start everything except carrots indoors. Pushed for time now, will respond better later if I can unless someone beats me to it.

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                        I’ve successfully sown chilli (and sweet pepper) seeds indoors, raising the young plants, again indoors, until the nights are warm enough for some of them to go outside against warm walls. Warmth is more important for the seeds, and plants, than sunlight.
                        I can’t remember who on this forum gave me the date, but it works. I sow somewhere around the 14th February. This gives me plants with enough growth time to crop well (I average around 30-50 chillies per plant depending on variety), whilst not overcrowding me too much. If I had access to an un-heated greenhouse, I would probably stick to the same regime, but Would hope to get better crops (potting them on sooner). I would hope to do better than the meagre 2 sweet peppers per plant I get outdoors, by growing them in the greenhouse!

                        With tomatoes - just checked my records - I tend to sow early April. Again, as I’ve no greenhouse, I have to balance between establishing plants, to avoiding leggy light-starved plants. With access to a greenhouse, I might aim for mid-March?

                        Courgettes I sow mid-April. As these are hungry monsters, I would be looking to plant in open ground, so you are limited by last frost date. If they get leggy, they never truly recover, so I don’t see any advantage sowing earlier.

                        I don’t have much experience/success with the other plants, so will not offer any advice!
                         
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                          Looks like you have your hands full already but Dolichos Lab Lab - strong annual climber producing edible purple pods. You can eat fresh or freeze them. Pretty flowers too.
                           
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