Sunday trading hours/ Scottish mp's

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  1. JWK

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    I agree with this completely FC, it used to be really nice to take the family out on a Sunday for a pleasant stroll, no chance of that now. I know it's difficult for everyone to do their shopping during the week, but somehow in the good old days we used to manage OK.
     
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      Good morning all my fellow United Kingdomians,or Great Britain's,we are a sovereign state of Europe.:lunapic 130165696578242 5:

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        Our Sundays are also wide open for trading. And I hate it. Now there are only federal statutory holidays when the roads aren't filled with frantic shoppers. And yes, it leads to more part time hours for workers instead of steady employment. And here, if you are part time, the owner doesn't have to provide you with any benefits, so this just gives them more means to split up the hours amongst a lot of part timers.:mad:
         
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          Firstly the majority of Scots dont want them here so this should be respected and accepted. Secondly these subs are tracked by Russia quite easily when near the UK coast. Only this week the UK had to call France to borrow a plane so we could track a russian sub off the west coast of Scotland.
          A new sub base could be built near Falmouth and Gibraltar is being looked at also. Its funny how you think its ok to throw scots mps out of westminster because they disagree with you and yet at the same time you think its ok to impose nuclear weapons on the scots because its the British thing to do ?
          And another thing,many of our allies wont allow nuclear weapons anywhere near their ports even to visit.
           
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          Why open for longer it should be shorten when most people now shop by the internet thingy
          Anyway we have a little shop near here that still closes on Wednesday afternoons and closed all day Sunday
           
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            Oh dear. I was planning on coming to your island in the spring. The visit would cost me about 4k of your pounds- which is a very significant amount of money to me.:frown: Sounds like a verbal civil war going on and I'm not spending that kind of money to get an earful!

            I'm glad I've read this thread. Lots of other things I can spend my money on, or just not bother trying to save any more. hmmm, maybe I'll get a new patio! :yes:
             
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              Don't be put off. We're all lovely really. We just sometimes enjoy a good debate. This is one of the many things that makes Britain great. The fact that we can have differing opinions without being persecuted for it.
               
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                I for one don't want to see Scots MP's out of Westminster - far from it in fact; indeed, had there been some sort of valid reason for the objection to Sunday trading laws in England, then I would say fair play -- in this instance, I fail to see why Scots MP's chose to block something that has absolutely zero effect on them one way or another.

                If the vote had been about something that was going to solely affect Scotland, or was going to affect the UK as a whole, then of course the Scottish MP's should be key in the decision making process. Put the boot on the other foot for a minute - if English MP's took a vote tomorrow on prescription fees being reinstated in Scotland and Wales, and based purely on their nationality all of the English MP's regardless of their party voted in favour of bringing those fees back and rode rough shod over the Scottish MP's, would that be fair? Would it be right? No, of course it wouldn't.

                It has taken a considerable number of years to get a strong presence of Scots in Westminster, and I for one think it is a real positive - there is a real danger that they are going to undermine themselves, however, by objecting to things just because they can, and just because they want to stick two fingers up to the English. We have much bigger things that we should be concerning ourselves with (NHS, state of our roads and railways, housing etc), and that is before we even think of the goings on abroad. I sincerely hope that the Scottish politicians have a word with themselves, stop going for petty point-scoring victories, and get to work on sorting some of the many things that are wrong in this country as a whole.
                 
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                  I think we need to face facts.
                  Scotland is actually on the brink of independence from the UK, the fact that they actually had to have a vote on the subject suggests all is not well.

                  The SNP will never give up and will be pushing for more chances to vote in the future.

                  Add to that the undemocratic voting system that we run in this country that allows a party with so few votes to actually end up with so many MPs and you have to wonder how long it will be until there is a split.

                  You cant go on spending billions on an updated nuclear deterrent that Scotland doesn't want on their soil, its madness.
                  It has to be moved South to make it work, its a very long term thing to be doing, in a country which is unsure of its future.

                  I know the OP was about Sunday trading and I can remember as a kid how boring Sundays were, when you couldn't even buy an ice cream.

                  I find it very strange that these days its only the NHS that shuts down for the weekend, if you dont get discharged from hospital on a Friday you are there until Monday, as the Docs dont work weekends.
                  Then they moan about bed blocking.
                   
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                    I'm not too sure about that, pete. A main pillar of financial argument of the SNP was that that they could use the Oil resources for a greater part of their ability to be independent. That has now proved to be a gross mistake, the price of oil is low and supposedly the forecast is for it to remain low, while the North Sea Oil Fields are starting to run out. There is a strong sense of injustice that most financial decisions are taken down South..........but, that's the feeling North of the Thames anyway!!! If you take away the income of the Oil Fields the major industries of Scotland are, Financial Services [around 7% of GDP, some Ship building, the Food and Drink Industry [£7.4 Billion,] some Aerospace industry [£2.1 Billion], but not a lot after that. So that's not enough to run the Country should it go independent. There'd also be a lot of pressure for various industries to move.
                     
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                    Not sure the SNP see it that way @ARMANDII?
                    And they do have a big following up there.

                    Also got news for you, we dont always like what goes on in Westminster South of the Thames either, Scotland has more say in its dealing now than any time in living memory.

                    And it appears more say in what goes on in my neck of the woods also.
                     
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                    No, they definitely don't, Pete, that's for sure! They are extreme Nationalists willing to take a tiny population of around 5.5 million people into the cold world of politics and finance with very little influence.

                    That they do, and most of that following wants to strike out at the sense of injustice at being totally ruled from down South.
                     
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                    As I said, they have more say in their own affairs than they have ever had in modern times.
                    And as I say again, more say in my affairs than in modern times.

                    If that aint enough, then best we say goodbye.
                     
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                    Just hang on in there Pete, please remember we the NO voters did win the Referendum by a reasonable majority but didn't crow about it. You'd need 1 hell of a lot of no voters to change to yes to produce the result the SNP wants. Statistics showed that wee Eck's idea of allowing the young the vote back fired and many young voters voted no, so perhaps our youth aren't quite so gullible! You have to allow for the fact that there is a large loud mouthed faction of yes voters the no's don't yell quite so loudly so you down South didn't hear from us until it mattered, at the ballot box. The main reason The SNP have been so well supported is because the traditional Scottish Labour voter was completely turned off by Miliband, and the new leader? need I say more? It's much easier for The SNP to blame all our problems on Westminster and continue with talk of Independence than try to solve our real issues. All Labour voters South of The Border should be kissing us no voters on all cheeks:). If Scotland ever gets Independence I doubt Labour would ever get back into power again at Westminster.
                    I was born (of Scottish parents) and educated in England and moved to Scotland about 30 years ago so know both countries well. We all have good and bad points can't we just get on? Oh and @WeeTam where did you get your information from re Faslane? I used to live very very close to RAF Northwood which is or certainly used to be Britain's military headquarters. Did we like it being in "our back yard"? hell no but it had to be put somewhere. My Dad always said we didn't need to worry if the Cold War hotted up as we'd be The Russians no 1 target! Evil necessities are just that. My husband hasn't had to go to war unlike my Father who gave up 9 years of his young life (in mine sweepers during and after the war) to fight and protect THE BRITISH ISLES. I thank god every day for anything which makes another world war less likely.
                     
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                    • pete

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                      So where does that leave Scotland.
                      Most people voted No to independence, but dont have anyone other than the SNP to vote for in a general election?
                      Seems a bit odd to me.
                       
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