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THE TOMATO GROWING THREAD 2018

Discussion in 'Edible Gardening' started by ARMANDII, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. WeeTam

    WeeTam Total Gardener

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    Gigantomo and tumblingtom for me. This will of course change as i dig out my big bag of seeds.

    Only problem is my blowaway greenhouse thingy blewaway :fan:
     
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    • Poly Hive

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      We bought two solar powered hydroponic units for the polytunnel last year. They worked very very well but with one proviso which was the fruits were insipid, to say the least.

      Now locally to us a farmer with a dairy herd is doing pretty much the same thing but heating his glass house with bio heat from the herd slurry. His fruits are full of flavour so it seems it's not the method but the variety that counts.

      Anyone have some suggestions please for varieties they have grown this way only.
       
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      • JWK

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        I've grown my usual set of varieties both in soil and in a greenhousesensation octo-grow system - which is probably similar to what you have @Poly Hive ? I found no difference in taste - between the two methods. It would depend on what nutrients you are feeding with though, tell us which varieties you grew and what nutrients and I'm sure you will get some good advice here.
         
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        • sandymac

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          I have never had much taste in a tomato grown purely hydroponically. I have tried numerous methods and fertilisers both chemical and organic. I now use quadgrows in which the pots are suspended over a tank with a wick feed. I have used various methods to feed. The method suggested by the maker is to put the supplied feed into the water tank which leads to various problems, and you have to clean out the tanks and replenish with fresh water every two to three weeks.
          I now grow with only water in the tank which is vigorously aerated and feed into the compost in the pots all organically. My compost make up this year is 70% peat 20% perlite and 10% worm compost for the microherd. I add to the compost 80 grms FBB, 60 grms seaweed meal , 50 grms calcified seaweed and 50 grms rock dust in each 11litre pot.
          I feed with bio bizz grow and bloom supplement with seaweed extract and spray with cal/mag. The roots of toms are dusted with mycorrhizal fungus when potting up.
          These roots grow down into the aerated water but this does not seen to dilute the taste.
          Variety is the key to taste see below my take on variety, others will have different taste idea's

          Varieties I will be growing this year

          Sungold small cherry in conservatory
          Sun cherry small cherry
          Sun cherry premium small cherry
          Crimson crush medium 200 grams
          Emerald green cherry small cherry
          Tigrella medium size 50grams
          Juanne Flamme medium size 30 to 50grams
          Steak sandwich large red 400 grams +

          Varieties previously trailed

          Sungold Excellent but splits easily
          Steak Sandwich Excellent taste large tomato
          Tigrella Excellent medium size tangy
          Juanne Flamme Excellent medium size
          Amish gold Excellent first year but subsequent seasons were very poor
          Alacante so so
          Juanne Flamme Very good
          Orance parouche Good but not as good as sungold
          Shirley OK good basket filler
          Amish paste Not great will not grow again
          Beefmaster Good first and second years not good after that
          Ruth’s perfect Rubbish spitter
          Mandarin orange Rubbish spitter
          Ailsa craig fantastic crop but no taste
          St Perrie Plants only produced two or three trusses taste mediocre
          Sakura ok not as good as Sungold
          Spudakee ok would not grow again
          Gardeners delight Used to be good seems to have lost its way
          Black cherry Spitter
          Brown berry Spitter Do not care for any of the dark varieties
          Matina ok
          Orange Wellington poor taste
          Caro Rich Poor crop no taste
          Sweet 100 ok not as good as sungold
          Carmello so so
          Mortgage lifter so so
          Moneymaker Rubbish water ball
          Pork Chop poor no taste
          Sweet Aperatief Poor very small
          Flamingo Rubbish hard as rocks
          Regards Sandy
           
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          • Poly Hive

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            We used the quadgro as you suggest but stuck with the makers instructions as it was the first year. Plants did very well and out cropped the earth grown and growbag plants we had for comparison but just disappointing in flavour.
             
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            • Freddy

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              Which varieties did you grow?
               
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                @sandymac, I am looking to try Orange Parouche instead of Sungold (fed up with splitting) but you say not as good. Do you mean flavour or crop quantity or both?
                 
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                  Hi Strongyloden I found the flavour was not as good as sungold but still a very nice tomato
                  regards sandy
                   
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                    Thanks, I'll give it a try if I can find some.
                     
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                      I got mine from fothergills seeds I still have ten seeds left if you want them they are from 2013 but may still germinate. pm me your address if you want them
                      Regards Sandy​
                       
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                      • Scrungee

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                        First tomatoes have germinated! But please note that these are Micro Toms (World's smallest tomato) that'll need to be grown on under lights until they go into the greenhouse in April. I last saved seeds in 2015 so wanted to save some fresh stock.

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                        • Scrungee

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                          I only like Sungold eaten either straight from the plant or soon afterwards, as I find they rapidly turn insipid.

                          Are Orange Parouche better at retaining their flavour? (I got my Mr Fothergill's OP seeds when half price at Homebase last year).
                           
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                          • Phil A

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                            Last few are ripening :)

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                              I ordered Rosada seeds, in the first week of January, from 2 companies, [Seedsonline and Justseeds] after finding it almost impossible to find that variety. Both suppliers stated they were in stock and within a couple of days stated they had dispatched by ordinary [free] mail but gave delivery dates of mid February:dunno::doh: Now, call me slow, but I was querying as to whether the Seed Companies were stalling in order to get the seeds after stating they were in stock rather than another alternative. Rosada is hard to find as the EU wants exorbitant fees to re-register the plant licence and so it disappeared from the market about 2 years ago. Anyway, today I received a small package in the post with the Rosada seeds inside but no indication of which company had sent them. But the package had been sent, airmail,from China!!:doh: Since I'd only ordered one packet from each company the cost of the mail must have been more than the
                              price I paid for the seeds.:dunno::snorky: Anyway, that's one order down and another to go and, I suspect, that will also come from China. When I ordered the seeds there was no indication that the firms were based in China so I thought the Rosada variety had been reregistered in the EU again and that I was ordering from a European firm. I just hope the seeds 100% germinate.:heehee:
                               
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                                Oddly enough, I got my seeds earlier this week - and they had been posted in Isleworth, about seven miles down the road! Took over a week to get here. Look to be OK though :)

                                We shall watch with interest to see how you get on @ARMANDII. I am going to wait another couple of weeks yet, before I lob any seeds in, as I am paranoid that I end up with a load of seedlings and too cold a greenhouse to put them in.
                                 
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