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Third runway at Heathrow!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Sheal, Jul 1, 2015.

  1. Sheal

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    I've just heard a third runway has been agreed for Heathrow airport. Apparently it means the demolition of 800 houses! :doh:
     
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    I would imagine most of the occupants would be glad to take the money and run Sheal,
     
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      Hold yer 'orses ;)

      I believe a recommendation has been made, and the government is to decide by the end of the year. Do sympathise with the people who live closeby. It seems we've been down this road so many times over the past decades though, recommendations and then indecision and nothing done. Goodness knows what will really happen.

      One thing though, I've been through Heathrow a few times recently, what a nightmare it can be to simply check in and get on a plane. I'm sure customs, passport control and security is run by Coco the Clown. Absolute farce. On a par with Heraklion Airport and Bombay! Ooops went off on one there ... I'll blame the heat.

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      • pete

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        I find the whole thing very strange.
        Traffic around Heathrow is a nightmare, and the M25 will need to be put in a tunnel, a village and lots of houses will be destroyed.

        Gatwick is in a very similar position.

        Yet they want to build houses on Manston, its got one of the longest runways in the country, I believe, lots of locals want it to stay an airport, but developers are getting their way.
        There is not much work in the area, so why all the houses?
        Even a silly little place like Llyd is getting the go ahead to expand and the roads down that way are diabolical, London Llyd:lunapic 130165696578242 5:

        Given a high speed connection Manston should be the first choice, surely.

        Crazy Boris is still banging on about fantasy island, and what is wrong with Stansted.

        Come to that, Birmingham, Liverpool, or Newcastle, we aint that big.
         
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          Why not use Mildenhall? The USAF are pulling out in a few years time, so it will be available.

          It already has a huge runway, longer than Luton and comparable with the likes of Stansted and Gatwick. Surely it wouldn't take much to convert it to a civilian airport, certainly not the destruction of 800 homes anyway.
           
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          • pete

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            Had a few happy days at Mildenhall and Lakenheath in the 80s, early 90s during my airshow following days.
            Great times, never to be seen again.
             
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              Make no mistake. Houses, People , Traffic , or the affects on one or all will count for nothing.

              Nothing stands in the way of greed.......
               
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                The Heathrow third debate has been going on for at least 20 years. The decision will be what makes the fat cats happy as Charlie says..............
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                  Oops, sorry all! That'll teach me for listening to second hand news from my other half! :doh:Although it doesn't take away the fact that this will probably happen even under public protest.

                  It may be a good site but I suspect it would be to far east to be considered. Would passengers aiming to reach London want to battle with the likes of British Rail etc. and could the rail system cope with the extra passengers from there, it's been struggling for years anyway?
                   
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                  I support the 3rd runway at Heathrow.

                  If the UK and London are to remain a major hub in Europe, there is no choice really.
                  If things stay the same, we will be left behind.
                  Airlines and other businesses will go elsewhere in Europe.

                  Whether Gatwick wants to admit it or not, Heathrow is the biggest UK airport with the biggest support facilities (cargo, roadlinks, support services etc)

                  Yes, 800 houses will be demolished. Not nice if you are the owner.
                  But the owners are not being left without a roof over their head. They are being offered compensation and alternative accomodation.
                   
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                  That's all very well Sirius but many of those people are emotionally attached to their homes. Can you imagine the heartbreak of an elderly person who has spent all their lives living in the same house, being told it's going to be demolished whether they like it or not! What price so called progress? :doh:
                   
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                    Just walking into someone's life and exercising compulsory purchase is damn barbaric. People have a right to their space and all the greedy bureaucrat idiots can bugger off !! Sorry I swore there ..

                    I feel ashamed at what this country is becoming. It's about time people stood back and reflected on a few good old fashioned values before making these frankly ridiculous decisions.

                    You know I was stood by a church near St Austel last week marvelling at the structure and timeless buety of the building.

                    Hands up who thinks future generations will look back on the Lego houses on the Lego estates and the blooming awful retail parks we are building now and marvel at it.. I think not.

                    There I feel better now.
                     
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                      Whether it is liked or not, I see the third runway as being pretty inevitable to be honest; for a starter for ten, Heathrow is directly connected to the London Underground system and has London Buses support also. Gatwick simply does not have the same links to Central London.

                      Yes, it will cause upheaval

                      Yes, it is sad that all those homes will be lost

                      And yes, the roads infrastructure is already stretched

                      However:

                      What major infrastructure plan is without disruption and upheaval? Errrrrr... None

                      What will the residents of those homes do when their properties are compulsory purchased? If they have any sense they will bank the near-on quarter of a million quid profit and buy a house in a sensible, airport free location

                      What incentive is there to improve the roads infrastructure as it stands now? The additional 'pressure' would be the very thing to push investment forward.
                       
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                      • Sheal

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                        I agree with you Charlie but compulsory purchase is not a new thing. Back in the late 1950's my parents lost their home the same way, I was quite young but still remember it. A bungalow with nearly an acre of ground surrounded by farmland and a dozen or so other properties. The whole lot was demolished to make way for a crammed housing estate. My parents gave up a lot, moving to a new build with a small garden elsewhere. :doh:
                         
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                        I'm surprised it's only 800 houses to be honest.:dunno::heehee: When Manchester Airport was extended it ate up more than that plus, more importantly, some beautiful Cheshire countryside.:gaah:
                         
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