UK and the EU

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by clanless, Nov 9, 2015.

  1. ARMANDII

    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2019
    Messages:
    45,235
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +93,211
    You definitely worry too much!!:doh::dunno::heehee:
     
  2. clueless1

    clueless1 member... yep, that's what I am:)

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    17,778
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Here
    Ratings:
    +19,582
    Not really. Not when I see long term close friends suddenly treating each other as enemies just because of the way they voted or the reasoning they applied.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
    • Anthony Rogers

      Anthony Rogers Guest

      Ratings:
      +0
      So, basically I'm in the wrong and my comment is invalid because I'm not married and don't have other people living with me.
       
      • Agree Agree x 1
      • Friendly Friendly x 1
      • CanadianLori

        CanadianLori Total Gardener

        Joined:
        Sep 20, 2015
        Messages:
        5,687
        Occupation:
        Battle Axe
        Location:
        Oakville, Ontario, Canada Zone 5A
        Ratings:
        +15,724

        Heavens, over here most people don't admit who they voted for. Particlarly those who voted Liberal and want a loaf of my bread :)
         
        • Like Like x 1
        • Funny Funny x 1
        • longk

          longk Total Gardener

          Joined:
          Nov 24, 2011
          Messages:
          11,142
          Location:
          Oxfordshire
          Ratings:
          +22,067
          There are a few points there. No, I could not really live but I have survived for periods on far less on more than one occasion. For me it was easier because I knew that I was still building for my future. For the migrant (as opposed to immigrant) workers you mention it is easier because they know that when they return they will be wealthy by their homeland standards as you have pointed out.
          The point about no local workers applying is a vexed question isn't it. We have got used to cheap supermarket prices, we object if they go up but then we all say that it is disgusting that the pickers are paid so poorly. Yet many of us are party to the price war that led to the all-powerful supermarkets telling farmers what they will be paid (and how many months down the line) instead of asking how much is your product and what are your terms?
          No rates and heating? An itinerant worker living in a grace a favour caravan (no matter how shoddy) over the summer could not be expected to pay rates on a mobile home and would not need heating surely.
          I'm not sure how someone who is happy to leach off the state (and is probably too thick to even know what an apple looks like anyway) bears comparison with a migrant worker coming here to work long hours, come rain or shine, for very little money by the standards of the workshy. If I had my way for every immigrant worker who comes in I would select one of these parasites (and their brood) and put them on a flight in the opposite direction. As I'm all heart I would give them a tenner to start a new life with and then use the benefit savings to lift the genuine claimants out of enforced poverty.

          I would put the figure at far less than 52%.
           
          • Like Like x 2
          • Beckie76

            Beckie76 Total Gardener

            Joined:
            Jan 26, 2015
            Messages:
            3,123
            Gender:
            Female
            Location:
            Near Bury St Edmunds in Suffolk
            Ratings:
            +8,431
            I actually had to loose the plot for the second time with a lorry driver at work a few weeks ago! He was so rude to a foreign lorry driver who was talking to me about his sick relative whom he'd been sending money home too,the foreign lorry driver is always happy & very respectful to me whereas the English lorry driver is grumpy & so arrogant it's unbelievable! The English driver passed two very unnecessary comments to the foreign driver about taking our jobs/healthcare & houses :mad:...I flew around to him & said 'I do believe this person is working really hard here as is his wife, he wants to make a better life for himself & is achieving that, is your daughter still refusing to go to work but claiming every benefit she can?' The room went silent so I added ' I think you should appologise right now because I for one an not going to tolerate this sort of racist behaviour!' He English lorry driver appologised & left the building! You all know I don't agree with the amount of people coming into our county claiming benifits who have never paid in BUT if someone wants to come & work hard then I welcome them in with open arms! Rant over!
             
            • Like Like x 3
            • Agree Agree x 2
            • ARMANDII

              ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

              Joined:
              Jan 12, 2019
              Messages:
              45,235
              Gender:
              Male
              Ratings:
              +93,211
              I didn't say that, Anthony, what I said was the subject as to whether or not you should pay less or more for rates, etc, is a different issue than the one we were/are discussing.:dunno::snorky:
               
              • Agree Agree x 2
              • CanadianLori

                CanadianLori Total Gardener

                Joined:
                Sep 20, 2015
                Messages:
                5,687
                Occupation:
                Battle Axe
                Location:
                Oakville, Ontario, Canada Zone 5A
                Ratings:
                +15,724

                Actually, you are wrong. Children need a lot more than food and a roof over their heads. And the amount of water they use is not free nor many other things. What, no flushing except after a number 2?. I was also a victim of downsizing many years ago and muddled through to the next job without government assistance. And I was a single Mum receiving zero child support. How do you tell a child that you cannot afford the milk program at school? Or, no, you cannot go on that school trip, we have no money. So instead you work fast to get a new job.
                 
                • Like Like x 2
                • Agree Agree x 2
                • Anthony Rogers

                  Anthony Rogers Guest

                  Ratings:
                  +0
                  Lori, I think your country is different to ours.

                  To take the water for example, we all pay the same amount. It doesn't matter whether ten people live in your house or one.
                   
                  • Disagree Disagree x 1
                  • longk

                    longk Total Gardener

                    Joined:
                    Nov 24, 2011
                    Messages:
                    11,142
                    Location:
                    Oxfordshire
                    Ratings:
                    +22,067
                    I totally agree. Many years ago after a bitter split with the ex I was stuffed - solicitor bills coming out of my ears and a whacking mortgage on a house that I couldn't sell until the courts had had their say. Now I did have a house that I rented out which meant that my net monthly deficit was only about £1500. When I asked for temporary accommodation I was told to kick my tenants out and move in there :scratch: I slept in my workshop for nearly four months until I was finally allowed to evict my ex (who had not contributed a penny towards the house or renovations which I did after a 12 hour day) and sell it.
                    Despite having proven myself capable of earning and saving like boogery the bank told me to sod off when I asked for an overdraft. Yet when I sold the house and had a fat wedge of profit they plagued me with phone calls trying to get me to invest it with them :mad:
                     
                    • Like Like x 4
                    • Informative Informative x 1
                    • longk

                      longk Total Gardener

                      Joined:
                      Nov 24, 2011
                      Messages:
                      11,142
                      Location:
                      Oxfordshire
                      Ratings:
                      +22,067
                      Sorry mate, I'm on a meter.
                       
                      • Agree Agree x 5
                      • Like Like x 1
                      • Informative Informative x 1
                      • ARMANDII

                        ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

                        Joined:
                        Jan 12, 2019
                        Messages:
                        45,235
                        Gender:
                        Male
                        Ratings:
                        +93,211
                        That is, I'm afraid, inaccurate, Anthony. Canada families face the same bills and problems as any family does, English, Scots, Irish, American, French, German, whatever. Trying to say that just because another person lives in Canada their views and experience is not valid because their water rates are different is off target. All families in North America and Europe face bills for food, resources, maintaining a family rather than a single person, energy etc, and a single person with no responsibilities to a Wife and children cannot even come close to knowing the problems.:dunno:
                         
                        • Agree Agree x 2
                        • Disagree Disagree x 2
                        • Informative Informative x 1
                        • CanadianLori

                          CanadianLori Total Gardener

                          Joined:
                          Sep 20, 2015
                          Messages:
                          5,687
                          Occupation:
                          Battle Axe
                          Location:
                          Oakville, Ontario, Canada Zone 5A
                          Ratings:
                          +15,724
                          @Anthony Rogers That is so so different. We pay for every drop so those who waste, or have family get a nice big bill. We, like @longk , have a meter. Sometimes I think it should make a noise like a cash register! We also get charged for sewage on every drop whether it goes down the sink or on the garden.

                          Interesting.....
                           
                          • Like Like x 2
                          • Agree Agree x 1
                          • longk

                            longk Total Gardener

                            Joined:
                            Nov 24, 2011
                            Messages:
                            11,142
                            Location:
                            Oxfordshire
                            Ratings:
                            +22,067
                            I agree. My niece is livid with my sister and brother in law and the house is a war zone. A bad war zone. Like really nasty.
                            Now for me I know I'm right, I know that 52% of my fellow country men were wrong but am I going to hold it against them? Of course not but I shall be saying I told you so.
                             
                            • Agree Agree x 3
                            • Funny Funny x 3
                            • Like Like x 2
                            • Freddy

                              Freddy Miserable git, well known for it

                              Joined:
                              Jul 15, 2007
                              Messages:
                              8,943
                              Gender:
                              Male
                              Occupation:
                              Retired - yay!
                              Location:
                              Bristol
                              Ratings:
                              +11,055
                              Thanks for posting that. I shall amend my posts :thumbsup:
                               
                              • Friendly Friendly x 2
                              • Like Like x 1

                              Share This Page

                              1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                                By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                                Dismiss Notice