UK and the EU

Yes Fox wasn't a million miles away from doing a Profumo affair altho maybe most on GC are too young to remember that! I am sad to say it just goes to show that our standards of decency have slipped somewhat when an MP and defence secretary no less can come back from what he did and have the brass neck to stand for leader/PM. Probably well qualified come to think of it....sigh.

 

Apparently there's a big march in London today to protest against the referendum result. In effect using their democratic rights (to march) to protest against the democratic rights of others (to leave the EU). On the irony.

 

If that is how they choose to spend their Saturday, that's fine (hope the weather is too - storms here).

 

The last thing the UK needs right now is to show Europe that we're all in a state of chaos and disunity.

Any attempt by what's left of our government to take a firm stance in negotiations now will just be laughed at. Eu politicians can rightly tell our negotiators, 'even your own people disagree with you and hold you in contempt'. That hardly puts us in a position of strength from which to negotiate our future.

 

I just saw this onF***book, I thought of this thread immediately! I hope it makes you giggle as much as it did me!

 

All this protesting and wriggling is starting to pee me off now. The vote has passed and the decision has been made. I disagree with it but that is democracy. Accept it or do as I'm trying to do and sort out your own Brexit before the UK leaves.

We lost that position of strength when we chose out and became a bit player on the world stage.

 

Well said @shiney, it's been such "fun" up here in the north pre and post our referendum and looks like we are going to do it all again, in the mean time our country is falling to bits but our representatives don't either see it or care less.

 

Spain and France have already said they will block Scotland - it only takes one. Junker initially refused to meet with Nic. I'm also not sure why she is so upbeat - Scotland can't veto the brexit and if they vote for independence they can't join the EU. The meeting was a waste of time.

Spain don't like the idea because of Catalonia.

Andrea Leadsom - I don't trust her - she's always smiling - even when she is talking and having a go at someone .

 

With respect, this is an opinion. It seems to be an opinion held by a minority that directly opposes an opinion held by the majority. It's all opinion. My opinion is that if we all go around complaining about impending doom then we will bring doom upon ourselves by being a nation of pessimistic defeatists. Or we could say yep, it's not what I hoped would happen but it is what it is, now how can I contribute to making it work.

 

I'm now in two minds.
I like the idea that we should leave the EU, but I really dont like the political wrangling that is going on.
As Cameron has now jumped ship, we need a new leader fast, no messing, and someone who is prepared to get stuck in.
The Tories need to get it sorted.

As to the Labour party
They might aswell consider themselves out of politics for the next 10yrs unless they can get that scrawny bloke to quit.
I'm guessing its the unions that are keeping him going.
And that says it all.