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UK and the EU

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by clanless, Nov 9, 2015.

  1. ARMANDII

    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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    The House of Lords can delay legislation, clueless, but not stop it. Usually, it attaches amendments to a proposed Bill and sends it back to the House of Commons for re-reading. The 1911 Parliament Act limits the power of the House of Lords making the House of Commons supreme of that "Other Place". So should the House of Lords not approve a Bill the House of Commons can just override it should it wish to.:coffee::snorky:
     
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      Not really, clueless, it's all about "checks and balances" and is probably the best set up to make sure a Government doesn't just ram things through.:dunno::snorky:
       
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      • pete

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        So basically the House of Lords is redundant???

        So why the hell are we still paying the B*****ds
         
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          As the queen is reported to have said, why can`t we just leave.
           
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            I think we should get the Duke of Edinburgh to be our top negotiator, he always was very diplomatic and never said the wrong thing, at the wrong time.:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
             
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            • ARMANDII

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              No, pete, it's not redundant. Yes, it's oversized and could/should be cut to about half the size it is now, but it does serve a purpose because, as I said, it prevents Government passing any controversial Bill without being perused and questioned. I don't know of any past UK Government that has passed a perfect Bill that didn't need amending or questioning. I'm no lover of the House of Lords, the way it's members are appointed, the whole Gravy Train aspect of it, and the fact that the majority of the members do nothing positive. I also agree with the Journalist who described the House of Lords as the "best and most expensive Day Care Center for the Elderly".
              It needs to be sorted out drastically, most the Lords to be taken to the Vets with a Shilling, and the whole "jobs for the boys" view finished.:coffee::snorky:
               
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                Good idea Pete, he would be great for the job, as long as he don`t call any them "slitty eyed".lol
                 
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                  He can say what he likes, being that he aint English.;)
                  And once brexit comes along we can deport him back to Greece.:biggrin:
                   
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                    I actually met him 3 times while in the rif raf........and our conversations about the state of his aircraft were limited as he would ask "What's f%$&*+??, and what's not f%$&++??, and then do a really good check of everything before he signed the F700 to accept the aircaft as it was:snorky: I liked the man as he was never rude or snobbish and would say Thank you when and where it was needed.:coffee:
                     
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                      Lets be fair, the man treats people the same way the man in the street would.
                       
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                      • pete

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                        Only the man in the street aint allowed to.
                         
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                          I'm so glad you're so optimistic and positive, Pete.:love30::heehee:
                           
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                            ;):snork::snork::snork::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
                             
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                              House of Lords is a good thing because it keeps an eye on the Commons and spends more time looking at the bills that the Commons (especially the sitting ruling party) try to push through legislation without enough discussion.

                              That way they can point out the possible pitfalls of the Bill and ask the Commons to have another look at it.

                              The Lords can, and should, be considerably reduced in size and no 'Lord' be allowed to retain their seat if they haven't made some sort of constructive contribution during the year. There's an enormous pool of knowledge within the Lords and we should make better use of it. Kicking out those who don't contribute or make non-relevant contributions would make the Lords a very effective body and worth the money they get paid.

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