UK and the EU

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  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Very good programme on BBC to night.7.30 till 8.00pm
    Well for the remain vote anyway.:snork:

    Government screws are being turned.
     
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      Thanks for telling us Pete.......

      at 8-53..... :roflol:
       
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        All I can say is that I will be there at the Polling Station on Thursday night to vote, and then we'll see what history will record.:dunno::coffee::snorky:
         
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          I think I've finally decided....oh look it's me again after saying I'm not going to reply to this threat anymore! :roflol:

          (I can't keep changing my mind it's getting ridiculous! :doh:)
           
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          • Jack McHammocklashing

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            Beckie I hope you see the future and vote out to assist the UK in it's future
            I voted not to go in in the first place as it was the thin end of a wedge even then

            It was fairly OK when it was for trading market economies, Though now it has become a
            dictatorship, telling us what laws we must use, what VAT we must add, what prices we must charge, and how to deal with Aliens, not allowed to deport rapists, criminals and terrorists,
            Must provide homes and benefits for any of the 500 million EU people

            I have been to Romania and Bulgaria, and to be honest after seeing that it is a wonder the whole lot are not here yet, probably saving up our child benefit for the coach fare

            Every pound income that leaves the UK never returns, so the pot will soon be empty
            A pound is a promissory note of an amount of GOLD, when a country has no Gold left it is BANKRUPT
             
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              If I don't go to the Polling Station at 6.30 a.m. then nobody will get a vote here. I've got the key! :loll: I suppose I should unlock the car park as well. :heehee:
               
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                That bit is not the eu. That bit is the European Court of human rights. Part of the Council of Europe I gather. Not the eu.
                 
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                  @Jack McHammocklashing :grphg:I'm not going to disclose which way I'm voting on here nor am I telling Kev or my friends which way I'm voting because I believe that we all should make up our own minds & not be pushed in any direction. It's taken me weeks to decide, this hasn't been a decision I've taken lightly. :dbgrtmb:
                  I'm not sure which way this is going to go if I'm honest, but I do know more people who are out than in, I've got a bit fed up with the subject now if I'm honest but I have found it quite interesting talking to different people & I have in many cases been shocked at some people's decisions & ive been gobsmacked at the amount of people who haven't done any research & chosen randomly what they think is right....I guess it takes all sorts.

                  Happy voting & decision making my friends :)
                   
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                    Well, if the vote had been a few days ago, I know which way I'd have voted. Right now I'm no longer sure.

                    However I'm also bored of it all, so unless I learn something major over the next 2 days, my decision will now be based on the mulling over of everything I've learned so far.
                     
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                    One of the interesting things that I've noticed after travelling around the country in the last month or so is the regional differences in the attitude to In/Out. The further away from the South East and city centres that I go the more the trend is towards Out.

                    I've spoken to a lot of people in all the areas and taken note, in my mind, of the posters and banners displayed.

                    A lot of the coastal areas, where there used to be fishing industries, there is a very large Out vote. Something similar, but on a smaller scale, is amongst the farming communities (surprised me!).

                    Central London is, not surprisingly, carrying a very large In vote.

                    The further North I went the more dissatisfied people seemed to be with the EU. They appeared to think, rightly or wrongly, that all the benefits went to the South.

                    If London does vote massively for In then they have the ability to swing the vote as the results are not regional like the elections are.

                    We'll find out soon enough and the lies and stretching of the truth will stop - if you believe that then you'd believe anything!!! :whistle: I've got some plots of land on the moon that I'm selling off cheaply. :thumbsup: :heehee:
                     
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                      Yet ironically, the North gets neglected by UK governments, while receiving lots of funding from the eu, whereas the southeast, especially London, has most to fear of the eu, because every closer union really aims to take control of the financial services industry, mostly centred around London, that UK government has fought so hard to protect from the eu.

                      People and and will vote how they feel appropriate. But it does fascinate me how massively skewed and illogical perceptions seem to prevail.

                      All that said, so called austerity is preventing us in the north from benefiting from any funding, eu or otherwise. Because many of our eu funded redevelopment projects were funded on the basis of 'match funding', whereby you get the eu grants, the local authorities and/or local businesses had to commit a chunk of cash, then the eu would match it or more. With no UK government funding, the eu has nothing to match, so we lose out there too. So in essence, here in the northeast at least we seem to be reliving the days of 'Maggie thatcher ambag snatcher'.
                       
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                      I do like the graphic - lion and unicorn pulling free of the shackles of the EU.

                      I'm feeling ever so patriotic at the moment.:biggrin:
                       
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                        I'm not. I'm not sure if I've ever felt less patriotic.

                        We have a government that is fighting amongst itself, with both sides only taking a break from fighting each other for just long enough to feed us the latest pack of lies. At the same time we have the Scottish contingent threatening to smash up the UK unless we vote the way they, the politicians and not necessarily the people, want. We have an elected government that is supporting a deal to have children shot while attempting to escape a war zone, and we have a very vocal proportion of the ordinary British public telling us its time to close the borders, don't take any of the refugees, and kick out any eu citizens that might be here because they've come over here and taken all our jobs and crippled our services, while at the sane time completely ignoring the wholesale ruination of beautiful Mediterranean coast line as horrible faceless ex pat settlements are built.

                        I'm not suggesting any of that applies to anyone here. It's just my observation of the situation in general. It doesn't make me feel very patriotic.
                         
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                          This one?

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                          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...ZwDzFS8ZQCwlhDrKWl6hK4roPlrrjquqg8Kboj_BE.jpg

                          It looks like they're running away in fear.

                          This observation is not an indication of my voting intention by the way. It's nothing more that lighthearted mockery of what I believe to be an poorly thought out graphic.
                           
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