VEGETABLE GROWING 2020

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  1. shiney

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    @Aldo

    They certainly did. :blue thumb:

    Using the Scoville Scale, pure capsaicin is 16 million. It is used by some hot sauce manufacturers as they buy it in and don't bother with growing any chillies. I think that the hot sauces made from pure capsaicin are flavourless - and I've tasted a few dozen of them at chilli festivals. In its pure form it is highly dangerous and not recommended to touch or taste. It can burn the skin and can cause death if ingested neat.

    No chillies have yet been recorded at 2.5 million but a number of them have been recorded close and slightly above 2 million. Most of those are related genetically and have just been tweaked by growers to try and get the record. There are rumours that two different growers are producing plants that will top 2.5 million.

    None of that is so important as even on the same plant the heat of chillies can vary by 50%. It's sufficient to know that some varieties are in the hot, very hot or extremely hot categories.

    I used to cross breed chillies but I now just let them get on and do their own thing. I only grow two varieties nowadays, Shiney Hybrids and Nagas. Although chillies are very promiscuous those two never seem to get on so all of mine appear to grow true. I have my regular buyers of both plants and all the money goes to charity.

    Just for interest:- although pure capsaicin is 16 million there are two different chemicals that read higher on the scale. Tinyatoxin is to supposedly top 5 billion and resinaferatoxin (normally referred to as RTX) is supposed to top 16 billion. Both of these are extracted from Euphorbias and, apparently, used in the medical profession for treating extreme pain.

    Also for interest:- most of the hottest chillies, to date, have been derived from the Naga chilli which originated in Bangladesh and not in Nagaland. Yes, Nagaland is a real place! It is the most north eastern state of India bordering Myanmar and surrounded by Assam. Bangladesh is the other side of Assam. I never found any Naga chillies in Nagaland :noidea:.
     
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      @Aldo everything @shiney says is right on . The reaper is the hottest on record at 2.2M scoville.

      This is a weird year with the chillies for me. I guess with the temperatures diving and then going sky high only to drop again a few days later, the plants are panicking. They are all starting to flower already and the plants hadn't attained any height over 2 feet. Should be an interesting year to see what happens next!
       
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        Some of my Hybrids are fruiting at only 1ft but I've kept them in 3 litre pots. I'll pot on soon.
         
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          Very pleased with how my courgettes are looking today! They seem quite happy to be growing vertically, I think I'll do it this way again in future.

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            The veg plants are loving all this rain - the green courgette's up to 4 big fruits and there's as many tiny yellow ones on the other. The peppers are starting to flower and I think I see the first tiny fruit. Both tomatoes have fruits now too and one of the sunflowers is working on its flower.
             
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              Coming late to the thread... Being out in the Atlantic, and with no greenhouse or even proper windowledges is limiting. So it is like my years up in Orkney. And I am not one for peppers and exotics or even tomatoes. Peas and broad beans do well and I am this year growing leafy greens rather than full cabbages. Cropping a couple of times a week, aided by abundant chickweed. This year I bought blauwshockker and the purple pods are very attractive. The ground here is rock a few inches down so potatoes are in buckets in grass cuttings that are like hay. We all and each grow as we can where we are and with prevailing conditions. I kind of improvised "greenhouse" beds using the large clear plastic crates from my craft fair days. Cannot imagine a year without growing
               
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                Please may I ask wisdom re the edibility of various parts of broad bean plants? One stand of mine has been felled by the current gales and deluges. Are the leaves OK to eat? There are small pods which I assume are fully edible. Waste not time! Thank you.
                 
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                Picked the first French beans yesterday
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                  Unfortunately I have no experience with the leaves.
                  I read online that they are edible, but I suppose you did the same and were hoping to hear from someone who actually tried cooking them.
                  Where I am from, the beans from small pods are considered a delicacy, so I think they are pretty safe to eat.
                   
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                    Way to go!
                    Mine are so behind, mainly because I did not support them properly earlier on, so only now they can start climbing in earnest.
                     
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                    My middle daughter ate the first harvest of her peas yesterday (only 4 plants) all three pods worth, without sharing :nonofinger:. The french beans have just started to flower and are still trying to climb past the end of their strings even their strings even though they have been extended once already! Onions are doing really well (not sure when they are supposed to be lifted :noidea:? ) and the courgette, whilst slow to start, is now doing quite well. Tomatoes have just started showing some small fruits and our lettuce is cropping well,

                    Some of the lower garlic leaves are starting to go a bit yellow - does this mean they are ready to pull?
                     
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                      I'm interested about the peas too? Do I have to soak them overnight?
                       
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                        I tried both ways and didn't see much difference so now I just stick them in the ground, right out of the packet. :)
                         
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                          9B519468-EF73-48F3-B453-EE4C6E3B6AB7.jpeg Lots of veg growing ever so well now.
                           

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                            Many thanks. I checked and it seems all OK. Will try this coming week but am letting the pods swell and fill.. Looking forward immensely.. yum!

                             
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