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  1. Philippa

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    I can understand landlords saying either No dogs or an extra charge @shiney but I understand that in this particular case, this is the MP's 2nd home. The dog presumably isn't vital to her job so shouldn't be allowed as a "claimable expense".
     
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      Not having been an MP I have no idea how long they stay in their second home but if I presume they are there, in London, for three to five days a week I'm sure I would like to have my pet with me.

      There also wouldn't have been anything to kick up about if the rental was higher in a property with the property advertised as 'dogs allowed'. We would have no idea whether the price was higher or not because of allowing dogs. When we visit the Lake District a lot of the properties say 'dogs welcome' (we don't have a dog) but we don't know if they are more expensive than the one down the road.

      I expect that in future the MP, and all others with dogs that they have with them) will rent a place that allows dogs without any comment as to it being extra. I don't know who the MP is or whether they have someone living in their real home that can look after it.

      I certainly would not like to have a job that keeps me away from home - although I did over two years of being away from home for six weeks and home for 10 days.
       
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        My American friend told me it was on their news programme this morning and it's been reported in the US press as well (albeit left leaning). Several economists and x users tried it out and it seems to work. I've never used chatGPT but supposedly other AI platforms provide a similar result.

        I've never even heard of this source so don't know of its reliability, it was just plucked from a random search but there are many others

        Trump’s new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT’s
         
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        Dogs/cats in rental properties. I am a landlord, and also own a beautiful Airbnb on the river in a gated community with hardwood floors. I love dogs and cats and have had both in my private home. What the issue is---is other pet owners, its the bad ones that put a stop to the "possible" well behaved animal and owner. If you let your dog on your bed and couch, they will go on my bed and couch, if you do not trim their nails they will scratch my wooden floors. I have seen so many dogs with nails that are so beyond the need of trimming its sad. Recently allowed a cat in our Airbnb, she kept the litter box in the bathroom, after they left, found out ---because of needing a plumber, she had put some litter poop down the toilet ----who does that.

        I myself think, it would be a good thing for some sort of certificate of behavior etc that a pet owner will get. Anyway, there are plenty of Airbnb who do set up their home for pets, whatever that means. So folks that read about those places, that are allergic, will stay away.
         
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          It would seem that my post wasn't really very clear so my apologies. What I found disturbing about the case I mentioned was the fact that the MP in question expects the UK tax payer to foot the bill for the cost of keeping a dog.
          When choosing to stand for Parliament, it is up to the individual concerned to consider all the pros and cons - if the rental of a 2nd home is essential ( ie standing for a constituency outside your area ), then you must look at your finances and dependants - in this case, a pet dog. Claim for the basic rent but any additional costs - such as paying extra for your dog to live with you - should be down to that individual. I imagine there are plenty of dog owners in rental properties in a similar situation but who aren't able to reclaim the cost.
          I'm not saying for a moment that she shouldn't have her dog with her - I'm sure all dog owners would feel the same - but just don't expect others to pay for it.
          As for the time working away from home, try 6 months at a time. My OH worked abroad for anything up to 6 months at a time - I sometimes had to write and say " Oh BTW, we have moved home - new address attached" :biggrin:
           
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            And it isn’t even April 1st.

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            And there was me assuming that it was formulated in Moscow :heehee:
             
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              Oh no "the Orange One" and his minions need no help in dreaming up this madness.
               
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                No idea what a MP means. sounds like it is someone with the government, who's travel stay somewhere is paid for by the government, and they have a dog to bring along. As it sounds loke a long time, not good to kennel a dog long. So the MP should find a place that the cost iincluding a pet is already factored in .
                 
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                  An MP is a Member of Parliament who is elected to represent a constituency. Constituency is a defined geographical area and the population elect an MP at a general or by election. The MP attends the House of Commons supposedly to represent their constituents, but more realistically to shout and catcall at Members of Parliament from other political parties.
                  So roughly equivalent to Senators and Representatives in the US. Like these people there are a wide range of expenses they can claim for all sorts of things and overall they are no more or less corrupt than US Senators and Representatives.
                   
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                  So no real hard evidence.
                   
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                  No, that's why I said likely cause. I guess it's down to a person's political views as to how plausible they find it. It wouldn't surprise me in the least since they do seem a government that would cheat at their homework.
                   
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                    Musk likes to think AI can answer everything so I'm not at all surprised that he would persuade Trump it's a good idea and sound economic policy. It's not like either has any empathy for the consequences of their actions on people's livelihoods, economic security, pension funds or even the prospect of financial or actual war.
                     
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                      He has said before that he thinks tariffs are stupid. He believes trade throughout the world should be free. It's probably because he understands economics and the supply chain far better than his boss.
                       
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                        I would think if other countries just lowered their equivalent of tariffs then the US market would become less of an issue.
                         
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