Whaaattt?

And there in lies the problem, what is ‘family voting’ and what is ‘helping someone’. It might not be easy for the poor polling station staff to distinguish or for others to prove.

 

Fair and free voting is absolutely essential to the democratic process. Without the assurance that it can be maintained, we become just one more corrupt state with untrustworthy election results.

 

I'm not sure someone who cant speak the language or at least know what is going on politically should be voting anyway.

 

@pete - some butchers and farms still do local slaughter on a small scale but they do have to be registered I believe, and subject to controls for hygiene etc.

Belgium has PR and lots of parties. The first time I went to vote in local elections I was presented with a voting sheet about 3' wide with lots of columns for the parties and rows for the candidates. At national level it can take months for the various parties to sort out the inevitable coalition and who gets key roles. I can remember UK friends panicking when the Tories and Libs took a couple of weeks to negotiate. Not long before, the Belgians had taken over a year and life and government went on.

I can't vote in France so don't take much notice except when Le Pen is on the rampage.

 

TBH I dont care about hygiene, if you want to buy such stuff you take your chances, my concern is animal welfare.
I would much prefer if animals were slaughtered as close to where they were reared as possible, but done properly and in a way that causes the least suffering.
Mobile slaughterhouses, if that were possible would be good IMO, but someone killing a few sheep or cows in a barn, whether it be hygienic or not is not is not something I find agreeable.

 

Farms can slaughter an animal, but a vet or a slaughter house person with a lience will have to shoot the animal and sign the forms, see it happening near me a few times even a picture, you see the animal hanging up in the poo pit in which to drain the blood as that has to be done asp because the blood will make the meat go black, then transported to the slaughter house for the rest to be done

 

Its a grizzly business, no good way to do it, but the quickest possible is the way it should be done IMO.
And no amateurs should be involved.

 

I think it makes sense because there are some really sh**ty places out there, and it also says dont take over a one of them.

 

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It is quick and the bullets are what they call slatter bullets which after they are fired the bullet breaks up into many bits within the head/brain

 

I dont eat much meat but I do wonder about the Abattoir practices that go on, many hundreds of thousands killed every day probably.
Add to that Chickens and it dont bear thinking about, especially as probably half of it goes in the bin.

 

Tis not a nice place but someone has to do it, i went to 1 slaughterhouse and yes you have to be a special person to do it day in day out

 

As a vegetarian, I saw the mention of slaughtering animals a while back and looked away. I shall not be reading this thread again for some time. A relative trained as a vet and was obliged to visit an abbatoir as part of the training. An overnight conversion to vegetarianism ensued.

Cheerio.