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    There is so much money being piled into AI perhaps you should ask it for some.
     
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      Unless housing is in a dangerous condition or cannot be renovated, it shouldn't be demolished if there is supposedly a "housing crisis".
      One thing which is increasingly noticeable in my area ( considered rural ) is that all new houses are those narrow 3 storey buildings. Older people who want to downsize often can't cope with stairs and so hang on to their larger houses. Single floor buildings are not on the agenda of most developers as they can't fit as many properties on their designated area.
       
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        Remember in the old days when they built bungalows, a far few 60s built ones local to me but the prices are sky high.
         
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          I've heard they going to remake the film "Birds" :biggrin: well here's the birds, couldn't get them all in the picture but there is about the same number again further up the roof
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            @NigelJ I've seen Trumpy asked about capturing "enenmy" boats and ships and replying that it's more fun to sink them. Apart from that being utterly barbaric for both the sailors involved and the wildlife and eco systems affected by the pollution, the fact that the US navy did not rescue the sailors from that Iranian ship sunk in international waters is not only a breach of international maritime law but also inhumane.

            @gks I don't think they can stop you selling a house that needs updating to modern standards - just look at some of the wrecks on Homes under the Hammer - but you do need a kitchen to get a morgage and certied electricians and gas fitters to sign off any upgrades and council approval for all building work done to show it meets regulations.

            If councils were doing thorough checks of rented housing stock standards there wouldn't be so many housing association or privately owned stock with such poor insulation, ventilation and damp proffing such as the kind that grow killer moulds.
             
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              There is an element of propaganda/bluster behind any war - they are hardly going to respond by saying "terribly sorry old chap, we didn't want to sink your boat really and we are horrified that people have died"... also, as for picking people up, if it is the one I believe you are referring to, the Americans were in a submarine, which wouldn't surface as it itself would then be a target from the air.

              War is not pleasant, and it does not sit alongside what we would class as being normal.
               
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                Round here it's similar; bungalows fetch a premium especially with small low maintenance gardens.
                One builder buys them as they become available if possible; he then does them up as required, often over several months, depending how busy he is with other projects; he then sells them on.
                Ground floor flats also fetch a premium.
                 
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                  I believe this took place after the US had "obliterated" the Iranian air force; also the sinking took place. It also took place off the southern coast of Sri Lanka and currently Trump has not declared war on Sri Lanka so minimal risk of air attack after surfacing to at least call for assistance.
                   
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                    I'd agree that many houses in both the Housing Association and private rental quarter aren't up to what should be considered basic standards where possible health issues are involved.
                    In the "western world", we all expect indoor toilet and bathing facilities along with clean water on tap, some form of heating/lighting and basic cooking facilities. Posh kitchens, decoration, new furniture every couple of years, huge TV's and smart phones for every adult and child is down to the individual. Expectations/entitlements have risen over the years but someone has to pay for it.
                     
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                      @Fat Controller The US is a signatory to the 1949 Geneva Convention which includes the care of wounded, sick and shipwrecked members of armed forces at sea

                      (1) After each engagement, Parties to the conflict shall, without delay, take all possible measures to search for and collect the shipwrecked, wounded and sick, to protect them against pillage and ill-treatment, to ensure their adequate care, and to search for the dead and prevent their being despoiled.
                      (2) Whenever circumstances permit, the Parties to the conflict shall conclude local arrangements for the removal of the wounded and sick by sea from a besieged or encircled area and for the passage of medical and religious personnel and equipment on their way to that area.

                      That submarine could have surfaced and they could also have called for help from Sri Lanka but they chose not to. When all this is over and/or Trump is out he won't be the only one facing war crimes tribunals. The captain of that sub should too.
                       
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                      Submarines dont surface very often I believe, the idea is to not be seen.

                      Can you imagine U boats in WW2 surfacing to pick up survivors, not much spare space for a start.

                      I may be wrong but when they sank the Belgrano in the Falklands conflict I don't think the sub surfaced.
                       
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                        How many submarines have surfaced to save people before? I am no mariner, but I'd wager there is a bit more to than pulling a plug and letting the ballast water out?

                        It is all well and good slinging accusations around from behind a keyboard, but the reality is not one of us were there and I'd wager not one, or very few of us has any experience in piloting a submarine. I know one thing for sure, the aren't taxis.
                         
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                          Had they been on a destroyer, battleship or carrier... then that would apply. Submarines take time to surface and may well be under strict orders not to surface, not least due to the risks from a counter attack but also so their precise location isn't known. The sad fact is, during war, people die. In this case, many thousands were dying before it even started.
                           
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                            The housing association houses around here are pretty good and well maintained, they all have better and newer kitchens and bathrooms than mine, most have just had new kitchens installed and some walls knocked down if the tenant wanted it.
                            New garden paths and driveways a few years ago.
                            They are in the process now of replacing all windows and outside doors because the existing ones are now over 20 yrs old.

                            I quite often hear moans from certain tenants that "they never do nothing in these houses":biggrin:
                             
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                              Trump's nearly 80, @Obelix-Vendée. War crime hearings take decades to get underway. He has zero worries about accountability, I promise you.
                               
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