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  1. NigelJ

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    BMI about 28 overweight, but not obese.
     
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      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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      They were saying a while back that the way BMI is calculated is flawed.
      Apparently a very fit athlete, possibly a weight lifter? was classed as obese under the way its calculated.
      It takes no account for muscle which is heavier than fat.:dunno:
       
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        @pete BMI is absolutely terrible , but it's what the medical profession use.
        The units are kg/square meter which don't fit anything, but doctors are doctors and so always right!!
        Note Trump is not a fit athlete even for his 78 years. He plays golf.
         
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            pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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            Neither am I, doubt Starmer is either.
            I wasn't aware you had to be to be a politician.:biggrin:
             
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              It would reduce the age though and eliminate golfers.
              You're right I'm not a golf fan.
               
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                Ah, my criticism of Biden did not imply support for Trump. I think they were both medically unfit to run for office on mental health grounds in 2020 and 2024, and neither should have access to the nuclear button.
                 
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                  Up until the 1990's you needed local planning permission to fly a flag except on particular days. Most of those restrictions were lifted and they have been altered/updated a number of times and the government website tells you which flags can be flown without permission.

                  You may still need local planning permission for the flagpole depending on the height.

                  One of our neighbours regularly flies the skull and crossbones and also some other humorous ones. Plus the Union Jack on special occasions, or the St George's Cross.
                   
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                    BMI works great for the majority of the population, who are not athletes. People who are athletes know that they are, and ignore it. It's only supposed to be a quick and dirty assessment.

                    Waist to height ratio is also suggested as a simple measure which may be more useful.
                     
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                      Personal experience of using BMI is not good. I'm no athlete but did used to walk a lot. Going back about 40 years, I joined a gym and they did all the normal checks of height, weight etc. I was 13 1/2 stone which according to their charts, made me 2 1/2 stone overweight. However their caliper test for body fat had very low reading. The person doing the assessment said that the chart, in my case, was rubbish (polite version). I actually put on weight after starting at the gym. I wasn't pushing heavy weights, high reps instead.
                       
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                        I had a similar experience when I started at a gym after an injury.
                        Around about that time my BMI was 16 to 17 and I got told off whenever I aw a doctor friend.
                        At that time I was regularly running 10 miles in less than 55 min and cycling and gardening.
                         
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                          A friend of ours, was told by the doctor that they needed to lose weight. They went from 98kg down to 73kg simply through changing their diet and doing a tiny bit of extra walking. I was talking to them and they said the doctor wasn't happy and they wanted them to lose even more weight and it was because they fibbed slightly and said they were a couple of kilo's lighter than they were at the time. At this time they looked so gaunt and unhealthy because of the massive change but the doctors seem unperturbed by that fact.
                          The thing that annoyed them most about the whole situation was that they didn't look particularly massive to begin with but most of the people who were claiming they needed to lose the weight, were far more overweight themselves.
                           
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                              Ladies and gentlemen, our national broadcaster...

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                              They simply cannot help themselves.
                               
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