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Discussion in 'Garden Projects and DIY' started by Upsydaisy, Feb 7, 2020.

  1. Scrungee

    Scrungee Well known for it

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    Now we've left, does that mean my Sodium Chlorate is now legal?

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    I suspect I'm still banned from mixing it with sugar.
     
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    • JWK

      JWK Gardener Staff Member

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      You're thinking of the hormone type weedkillers Lori - stuff like "2,4-D" (sold under all sorts of trade names) stimulates plants to grow out of control to the extent that they bust themselves up within a couple of days. "2,4-D" is 'selective' i.e. some plants don't react - hence it can be used safely on a lawn where it kills common weeds but doesn't affect grass. Maybe that's what you could have used :)

      Roundup is not the same, it contains Glyphosate which is non 'selective' so it kills every green plant it touches but very slowly.
       
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      • Mike Allen

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        I was wondering much along the same lines. Now out of the EU, will we be allowed to treat our gardens as we wish.
         
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        • shiney

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          We won't automatically be free from the EU regulations as they have been adopted into our laws. The government will have to change those laws and I can see sodium chlorate being very low on the list of priorities. It would take a manufacturer to ask for it to be removed from the prohibited list. :noidea:

          Watch out @Scrungee somebody may report you! :hate-shocked:
           
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          • NigelJ

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            They would have also have to present a lot of data regarding toxicology and ecological effects to show the material was safe for that use; this data is prohibitively expensive to obtain.
            Many chemicals were removed, not because they were hazardous, but the data did not exist to show they were safe and the returns did not justify the cost of testing.
            Some chemicals were removed from one use but kept for another. Ammonium sulphamate was available as "Root Out", but was withdrawn as a herbicide, it is still available for home use as a compost accelerator and used industrially as a flame retardant and in electroplating.
             
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            • Scrungee

              Scrungee Well known for it

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              Shame it's not what they used as a flame retardant in the later versions of Sodium Chlorate weedkiller, it might have been a really nasty effective cocktail of chemicals.
               
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