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Donald Trump.

Discussion in 'The Muppet Show' started by roders, Jan 28, 2018.

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  1. CanadianLori

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    I have to agree with @redstar , after one has left a job, calling them to discuss past issues/clients/patients they have dealt with might be acceptable but it would be wrong to have conversations about new, confidential information.

    Just my umble opinion...
     
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      It seems that access to sensitive material is being confused with security clearance. As soon as he left office he would have lost all access to sensitive material but (as is usual amongst intelligence and senior military staff) his security clearance would have remained in place (assuming that that person had not been dismissed of course).
      By revoking this security clearance Trump has ensured that Brennan is no longer such a valuable recruit to the staff of the myriad private security contractors where it is possible to earn huge sums at all levels. The private security contractor sector is a massive growth area with governments worldwide (including the US and the UK) using them more and more to carry out potentially politically embarrasing operations, where official troop numbers have been reduced for reasons of political expediency or where deniability is required.
      It was a venal act done out of spite - nothing more than that.
       
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        @longk aha... I see your point. Years ago I recieved "secret" clearance from our RCMP and there was no expiry date on my documentation. .
         
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          As longk says, access should not be allowed but clearance is almost always retained in case the person is needed to discuss or advise. The comment was definitely done out of spite. You may sack someone but you don't blab it to the whole world :nonofinger:. That's unprofessional, childish and totally uncalled for.
           
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            Well, we seem to be talking as though it's the first time that this has happened!!:doh::wallbanging: Trump has always attacked/undermined people who have proved to be critical or, after working for him, found what a, to quote an ex White House Senior member, Moron he is.:dunno: He hates being criticised, and will like a childish, mentally challenged bully, attack any one who realises what he is.:coffee:
             
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              Just so John Brennan doesn't feel that it's personal the chump also has the security clearance of nine others 'under review'. By sheer coincidence all nine have previously been critical of him.
              America becomes more like a dictatorship by the day - does anyone else wonder what he really talked about with his chums Lil' Kim and Vlad?
               
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                It's a pity because I'm sure he does some good things but they disappear from view because of such childish behaviour!
                 
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                  The thought of someone of this moral deficiency holding such an important office almost makes me weep.
                  Supporters seem unable to think ahead to see the effects his choices will have on them and the terrible consequences his personality has globally :)
                  I hope I’m mistaken I truly do.
                   
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                    they disappear from view because the media chooses not to publish the good he does and loves to over inflate anything else. Obama did worse the media did not mention it at all.
                     
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                      Would never cross my mind to ever call anyone a MORON or and IDIOT. Its a shame that there are those people in the world who do that.
                       
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                        Could not agree more - whilst we are at it, I think it highly inappropriate that ANYONE calls someone else a 'dog'; indeed, if I called any of my employees (or ex-employees) a dog on social media, I would be disciplined and almost certainly relieved of my post...... so I have to ask, why does the same not happen to Mr Trump?
                         
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                          But it is ok for someone who is running for president to brand a nation rapists?
                          The danger that the chump represents is demonstrated by this article. When your pres thinks like that then hicks such as that woman will feel vindicated to think and act as she does - it normalises it.

                          edit; the video doesn't play on the first link but it does play at the following..........

                          - The Washington Post
                           
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                            And I believe that, Redstar.:love30: But I think the underlying point to my post was that those who called Trump, a Moron, and worse, were the people he hired, praised to the skies, and then when they found out what his true nature and character was, he fired them and then denigrated them without any embarrassment of his blatant hypocrisy :dunno::wallbanging::doh:
                             
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                              First ---rather not comment on some of above as much is due to fake news etc. I know from watch BBC that much of what they state is fake about Trump. And second, guess the dog community is insulted by calling a human a "dog". Its my understanding that the use of this word has a wide berth of meaning, and is subjective. None of us really cares that he used that term. What is more important is the billions of dollars that Obama sent to Iran. Or the money Hillary sent to enemies of us, and the lies and cover-ups that keep surfacing. And Trump is not raciest ---again fake news.
                               
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