Fond of Fronds

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by micearguers, Mar 19, 2024.

Tags:
  1. BB3

    BB3 Total Gardener

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2024
    Messages:
    1,324
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    A bit of gardening
    Location:
    London
    Ratings:
    +2,355
    That yellow blossomed thing with the blue berries and pointy leaves attacks me when I'm footling out the front. It's not even my plant! @ViewAhead
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • micearguers

      micearguers Gardener

      Joined:
      Mar 13, 2024
      Messages:
      100
      Occupation:
      Bits & bytes
      Location:
      Cambridgeshire
      Ratings:
      +191
      Our neighbours have a quite massive holly tree and we get a lot of dropped holly leaves right where I grow most of the ferns. I've embraced it. It creates a nice leaf litter layer which is certainly good for moisture retention and it must be good for critters too. We also get leaves from our semi-evergreen Spanish oak (turner). The good thing is that for both the leaf fall is relatively steady rather than a sudden flush. Time will tell if it is too much of a good thing ..

      IMG_20250804_114804.jpg
       
      • Like Like x 3
      • micearguers

        micearguers Gardener

        Joined:
        Mar 13, 2024
        Messages:
        100
        Occupation:
        Bits & bytes
        Location:
        Cambridgeshire
        Ratings:
        +191
        Not a happy summer for ferns here, but concluding with some fresh fronds, a yearly returning event. Polypodium cambricum got its new fronds about a month ago. Always a wonderful fern to take me into autumn. Below that we have Dryopteris atrata persisting but certainly not flourishing with some Asplenium trichomanes that did quite well and lift the spirit. They seem easily able to perk up with some TLC (rain water really) after a hot period.

        IMG_20250908_141751.jpg IMG_20250908_141900.jpg
         
        • Like Like x 6
        • micearguers

          micearguers Gardener

          Joined:
          Mar 13, 2024
          Messages:
          100
          Occupation:
          Bits & bytes
          Location:
          Cambridgeshire
          Ratings:
          +191
          Same theme as the last post: green shoots offsetting a grizzled survivor. Here the green shoots are Gymnocarpum dryopteris - Oak fern, an understory plant. It is beneath an oak, so hopefully it will start to feel at home. It's not yet expanding but the fresh shoots are a welcome sight. In view above it is a suffering tatting fern, Athyrium filix-femina 'Frizelliae'.

          PS I wonder if this thread could become a sticky thread - not sure how to go about it. It doesn't need to but perhaps it is suitable?

          IMG_20250913_130119.jpg
           
          • Like Like x 1
          • BB3

            BB3 Total Gardener

            Joined:
            Mar 13, 2024
            Messages:
            1,324
            Gender:
            Female
            Occupation:
            A bit of gardening
            Location:
            London
            Ratings:
            +2,355
            All my ferns are doing well in containers but I'm afraid to put them in the garden. Any I've tried, I've had to rescue - apart from dryopteris.
            But the good thing is, they're close to the house so easily enjoyed
             
          • ViewAhead

            ViewAhead Total Gardener

            Joined:
            Mar 14, 2024
            Messages:
            3,981
            Gender:
            Female
            Location:
            South of the South Downs, north of the sea!
            Ratings:
            +9,649
            I find the opposite. Those in containers struggle a bit, but if I plant them out, they look much happier. Must say most of mine have managed the drought pretty well. The Japanese painted varieties have died back early, but the others are OK!
             
            • Like Like x 1
            • shiney

              shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

              Joined:
              Jul 3, 2006
              Messages:
              67,254
              Gender:
              Male
              Occupation:
              Retired - Last Century!!!
              Location:
              Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
              Ratings:
              +134,075
              Done. :thumbsup: It's difficult deciding on which threads should be stickies and even more difficult deciding which to remove from being a sticky. :scratch:
               
              • Friendly Friendly x 1
              • micearguers

                micearguers Gardener

                Joined:
                Mar 13, 2024
                Messages:
                100
                Occupation:
                Bits & bytes
                Location:
                Cambridgeshire
                Ratings:
                +191
                Oh super. Thanks @shiney ! I intend to keep posting about ferns for a long while and there seems to be a bunch of us. It's a great place here :yes:
                 
                • Agree Agree x 1
                • Friendly Friendly x 1
                • shiney

                  shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

                  Joined:
                  Jul 3, 2006
                  Messages:
                  67,254
                  Gender:
                  Male
                  Occupation:
                  Retired - Last Century!!!
                  Location:
                  Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
                  Ratings:
                  +134,075
                  I'll have to wander round the garden and take some photos. I haven't the faintest idea what our ferns are - or even if they are ferns but they look like them to us. :)
                   
                • micearguers

                  micearguers Gardener

                  Joined:
                  Mar 13, 2024
                  Messages:
                  100
                  Occupation:
                  Bits & bytes
                  Location:
                  Cambridgeshire
                  Ratings:
                  +191
                  Please do @shiney looking forward to it. I'm actually not very good at identifying ferns, it's a slightly frustrating aspect of my crush . I'll post soon about a seedling fern that miraculously grew in my dry Cambridgeshire patio. I've been umming and ahing for two years what it might be, I now think it might be a shuttlecock fern.
                   
                • BB3

                  BB3 Total Gardener

                  Joined:
                  Mar 13, 2024
                  Messages:
                  1,324
                  Gender:
                  Female
                  Occupation:
                  A bit of gardening
                  Location:
                  London
                  Ratings:
                  +2,355
                  I have kept all the labels. Unfortunately, they're not attached to the plants! The photos or drawings on the labels aren't much help :noidea:
                   
                  • Funny Funny x 1
                  • micearguers

                    micearguers Gardener

                    Joined:
                    Mar 13, 2024
                    Messages:
                    100
                    Occupation:
                    Bits & bytes
                    Location:
                    Cambridgeshire
                    Ratings:
                    +191
                    About 18 months ago @BB3, @pitter-patter and @LG_ and myself all had small fern seedlings. Any news of them? Mine has continued to bedevil me. Right from the start it seems to have been developing a trunk, but perhaps more likely that is an erect rhizome. I have some theories, but none coherent or sufficiently supported. I'll need to look closer at its crown and unfurling fronds and those of other ferns. A begonia has also self-seeded in the pot for companionship.


                    IMG_20250913_125740.jpg

                    IMG_20250913_130029.jpg
                     
                    • Like Like x 1
                    • BB3

                      BB3 Total Gardener

                      Joined:
                      Mar 13, 2024
                      Messages:
                      1,324
                      Gender:
                      Female
                      Occupation:
                      A bit of gardening
                      Location:
                      London
                      Ratings:
                      +2,355
                      Mine turned out to be a dryopteris.
                      Mine share their space with nemesias which seed all over the shop.
                       
                      • Like Like x 1
                      • pitter-patter

                        pitter-patter Super Gardener

                        Joined:
                        Mar 13, 2024
                        Messages:
                        197
                        Gender:
                        Male
                        Occupation:
                        Teacher
                        Location:
                        Midlands, UK
                        Ratings:
                        +1,362
                        I moved house in December and haven’t been able to check on my fern since. Before leaving, I placed it in a shady spot in the garden.
                         
                        • Informative Informative x 1
                        • Friendly Friendly x 1
                        • LG_

                          LG_ Super Gardener

                          Joined:
                          Mar 13, 2024
                          Messages:
                          170
                          Location:
                          SE London
                          Ratings:
                          +695
                          I can't find where I said that! But I think they were probably the ones growing around a potted Acer. If so, I took a while to get round to doing anything about them... until last month in fact, when I teased them out of that pot and potted them up individually. Most were Dryopteris filix-mas, as expected, but I was delighted to find a few Polystichum tsussimense too. Squirrels have excavated some of the pots a couple of times, but they're all still alive so far.
                           
                          • Like Like x 2
                          Loading...

                          Share This Page

                          1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                            By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                            Dismiss Notice