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Glyphoshate confirmed as going to be banned by EU

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by Scrungee, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    The EU are involved, need I say more?:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
     
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    • JohnD

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      Anything manufactured by Monsanto will have corporate bullying tactics behind it, to have it legalised.
       
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      True, but the EU is not known for backing down while on "Green" issues and crusades, and Monsanto has found that out previously:dunno::snorky:
       
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      It already is legalised.
      The EU bullying tactics are, as usual, to get it unlegalised;)

      Personally, I think the EU should be looking more into what insecticides are being used, large scale, rather than fannying around with a herbicide.
      Although I still say it should only be allowed as a weedkiller and not used on food crops .
       
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      • Scrungee

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        Yes, like spraying Glyphosate resistant GM crops (produced from seed sold by Monsanto) or using on crops to finish off those still growing so all the seeds harvested will be 'ripe'.

        The final decision now rests with an EU Appeals Committee which will decide shortly whether to extend use of Glyphosate. I suspect they'll come up with some stupid compromise like allowing farmers to continue using it, but ban gardeners.
         
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          EU countries have voted to renew the licence of glyphosate, a widely used weedkiller at the centre of environmental concerns.

          The proposal at the EU Commission's Appeal Committee got 18 votes in favour and nine against, with one abstention, ending months of deadlock.

          The Commission says the new five-year licence will be ready before the current one expires on 15 December.
           
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          • silu

            silu gardening easy...hmmm

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            Thanks @Scudo for the heads up. I was thinking I would need to get more despite still having plenty of what I bought about 5 years ago. As usual, no doubt it's not the product but the misuse of same which is the problem. It's not guns but those that fire them which is the real issue.
             
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              So I can buy another 5 year's supply to enable me to use it on the limited areas where
              I don't grow any edible stuff.

              And commercial food producers can continue to spray it all over edible crops.
               
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                Jiffy The Match is on Fire

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                Have a good read, i know it not glyphoshate but read some of the comments

                post 14 is good, and it's on open forum
                 
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                • Scrungee

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                  The 'science' used for the study that prompted the attempts to ban Glyphosate was apparantley a large survey in the USA which found that farmers had a slightly higher incidence of cancers, and as 80% or so of what they were spraying was glyphosate they simply assumed that was the likely culprit.

                  But when I read of a survey of fruit on sale finding residues of 120'ish chemicals that had been sprayed on it, I wondered just how many hundreds of chemicals farmers are using, and it seems a rather crude conclusion they came to above in assuming everything must be due to the most commonly used one.
                   
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                  • glasgowdan

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                    That's the thing, most members of the general public are not informed on weedkillers, how they work, what pathways they take and so on. They just see headlines, assume it's bad, decide that because they are "green" they believe it's wrong and to hell with anyone who disagrees.
                    I got shot down on gardeners world forums for suggesting there's more to it!
                     
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                    • Vince

                      Vince Not so well known for it.

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                      Just ban the human race...... end off?:)
                       
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                        I think we're on the path, at the moment, to doing just that, Vince:whistle::wallbanging::coffee::snorky:
                         
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