Miracle Gro MPC - avoid!

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    This stuff would be better named "Miracle if anything Gro in this"
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    In a bit of desperation, I ordered four bags of this to keep me going as there was no sign of my car coming out of the bodyshop. One assumed (big mistake) that it being a big brand, that it would be good stuff. Absolutely awful!

    The texture is rough as a badger's backside, woody/twiggy and fibrous, and very course:

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    Thankfully since this had been delivered, my car had been returned to me, so I shot out to the local garden centre and bought the cheapest bags of compost I could find - and it is a million times better:

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      @Fat Controller I always used to use Miracle Gro but gave up long before Peat Free came into the equation. Even back then it began to have lots of other stuff in it. Twigs, lumps of wood, plastic and so on. Would you mind sharing which is the other brand you bought, the nice looking one, or would you rather keep it a dark secret to prevent a run on it? :smile:
       
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      Looks awful, worse than the wickes own brand peat free I bought a month ago and I thought that was bad.

      What did you buy instead?
       
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        I think it is Goodwins maybe? I will check tomorrow as I have another two bags of it - quite nice stuff to be fair.

        Before going onto the Miracle Gro, I had used a few bags of this stuff - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08YF4YZ11?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
        And it was really quite good too.
         
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          Fairly sure it is called Goodwins (or similar) I will check in the morning and get back to you
           
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            I've really struggled with the peat free ones, particularly the New Horizons one. It used to be pretty good and I thought "thats great, they have the formula nailed for peat free mixes". But last year I struggled to get much to grow and germinate in it, the growth that came from it was weak and ended up rotting (despite good drainage). I can't be 100% sure it was the compost, but it seems pretty likely since I kept everything else pretty consistent.

            It sucks because you can't just rip open a bag in the store to check.
             
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              Oh no - I have 20 bags of this New Horizons one on the way! Peat Free All Purpose Compost - 50 Ltr Bag
               
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              All I would say is use the finer stuff for seed sowing, or buy seed compost, and the coarser stuff for potting on larger plants.
              It might look rough, but as I always say, its how the plants grow in it that matters not what it looks like.
               
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                We bought this once and never again. That stuff was already a dry something 3 years ago when OH got the idea of having a pot garden. Left me with the watering job and never looked at the pots :mad:
                To make it short, despite watering the pots with tons of water, that stuff got never wet on the surface down to 10cm.
                 
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                  Thankfully the bulk of what is coming is to be mixed into the soil - very few things will be in pots. For baskets, I am going to give the coir blocks a shot (bought a couple of those today)
                   
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                    I never used to have an issue with it, it worked really well for me. Last year's didn't look or feel particularly different but I think it just didn't drain well. It was always saturated despite perlite being added. It may just be a bad batch for all I know and I was unlucky. Youd assume there would be consistency within a brand but I guess there isnt. You're dealing with organic matter, after all.
                     
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                      I obviously don't get out enough, :biggrin:but I have never come across these coir blocks that everyone seems to use.
                       
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                        I stumbled over them in the garden centre today (and have seen the odd video of them online) so I thought I would give a couple of them a whirl.
                         
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                          I had good results last year with that New Horizon peat free MPC. Like others on the compost thread the last couple of years have found it varies batch by batch, not just this New Horizon stuff. The manufacturers don't have a set recipe for peat free, I think they have to use whatever is available especially from the council garden waste collections. Sometimes it looked a completely different colour as well as the consistency and obvious bits of bark, twigs etc.

                          This is where peat based composts win because the recipe ingredients hardly vary. But that's cosmetics in my opinion.

                          Have to say the poor looking Wickes own brand has performed well so far this year, I've only used it to pot on onions and start potato chitting, it's too coarse for seed sowing and to be fair it excludes that on the packaging label. Shouldn't really be called multi purpose but there isn't a definition.
                           
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