Planting seeds

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  1. CanadianLori

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    I think when you get the seeds, follow the instructions that (hopefully) they provide. You don't have to start them the minute they hit your mailbox so you will have time to assemble the instructed supplies.

    @pete usually has good "every day man" advice too. :dbgrtmb: :love30::spinning:;)..

    Hopefully you'll get great results. If you don't, please don't fret. I spent 3 months checking pots where I had sown some seeds known to take 90 days to germinate and the seeds had been bought from a reliable source (Kew). Nothing sprouted but at least I tried. :)

    I've had lots of other successes and learned that a failure here and there does not happen just to amateurs!

    Let us know how you make out please :)
     
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      O.k, so your knowledge is from what you have read?, take it from my experience, what is available, to what you read, has moved on, and probably moved on since we had this conversation, what most do not know, a lily breeder, will create thousands of new varieties every year, from their short list, these varities will go through 5 or 6 years of field trials, from which 1 or 2 will be selected, it is why, if I buy a humble pelargonium plug, produced in a tray of 84, I will pay 65p plus VAT, then up to £6 per tray royalty depending on the plant, and sign a non propergation contract, the funds going back to the breeder, who is looking at profit, toninvest in the future.
       
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      So why does the lily grower grow them on for 5 or six years?

      Its not based on what I have read, its mostly based on growing other bulbous plants from seed, and I've usually found they dont flower first year and often not second.
       
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        Sorry Cuttings but is this not the case with any of us?

        May I apologise to Pete, as it seems he has been for want of a better word, blamed for my comment.

        Our forum friend asked a basic question. This was answered, and as so often happens. I for one added a bit more information. That appears to have been somewhat misconstrewd. I do hope Gaynor hasn't been put off by what has followed.
        Perhaps this thread can be closed.
         
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          A breeder creates new varieties every year, they pick the best in their opinion as a short list, these plants are put through trials, how well do they grow in a border, a pot, a hanging basket, how do they stand up to pests, disease, over 5 or so years, the new varitey is only passed and released, if it performs to the breeders criterea, sort of like a RHS gold, the plant has to achieve what the breeder set out to achieve,
           
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            I agree, and hope Gaynor is learning from thisv thread, and my overall message would be, try everything, and see what works for her, and her garden.
             
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              Its closed as far as I'm concerned:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::rolleyespink::rolleyespink::rolleyespink::rolleyespink::rolleyespink::rolleyespink::rolleyespink::rolleyespink::rolleyespink:
               
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              • CanadianLori

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                And that is exactly what I said a few posts ago.. couldn't you have just let that be? Propergation, plagiarism. .. all fun stuff! :doh:
                 
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                  Wow, pete, that is the most comprehensive post I've seen you do in a long time:love30: , and I agree with you on most points. Cannas, as you said, are not Lilies and I'm sure you're right that, logically, Lily seeds will take a long time to flower until the ensuing bulb is mature enough to even think of flowering.
                  I think we missing the fact that we're agreeing mostly with each other, especially about Cannas not being like Lilies, but we've stopped answering the question of will the seeds produce a Blue flowering Lily, the general consensus is, I think, NO, Will the seeds take a long time to produce a bulb big enough to flower, I think we agree on YES. So, were the offered "Blue Lily" seeds from China?........probably not. Has Gaynor Harvey who asked the original question bought the seeds on false information from the Seller facing a long time before the seeds produce a Blue Flowered Lily?.........well, you can answer that for yourselves.
                   
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