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Sheds

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by Fat Controller, Jan 20, 2019.

  1. Fat Controller

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    Well, I don't have a set of rods, so that might be a fly in the ointment - but I will lift the lid (I say 'I' - it most likely won't be me, but I will be watching) and we will take a look to see what goes where and how it is looking.

    @ricky101 - those are exactly what I was thinking of using - the shed is 12ft wide, and the floor bearers run across it width ways if my understanding is correct, therefore I was anticipating 12 bricks spread across the length of each bearer - do you think that would be sufficient?

    @Jiffy - that is a good point actually, woulld having a double row of bricks not make it a bit unstable and potentially too high? I suppose laying the DPC flat on top of the bricks rather than wrapping it around the bearers might help though as the water would simply run off the sides? maybe @pete could advise?

    Open to all suggestions here - now is the time to do the planning, before it arrives.
     
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      Don't wrap the bearers in dpc they need air around them to keep dry. I don't think dpc underneath will be a problem as rain won't be getting to them under the shed.
       
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        Should I be doing a solid line of bricks along the length of each bearer, or would 12 per bearer be sufficient?
         
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        FC, just put your shed up.:biggrin:

        As my boss often says, your over thinking.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
         
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          If you are using bricks to increase the sheds height off the flags then they should run perpendicular to the sheds bearers.


          Think its a bit like Pete said, wait until the shed arrives and you can better see what its base is like and the guys helping will more easily see whats really needed; no rush to get it up the same day ?
           
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            Oh goodness no, it will almost certainly take a couple of weekends to put it up - one to sort the floor, the hatch for the manhole, and to level the floor up (be it on bricks, directly onto the patio or on opposing wood bearers) and then another to actually erect the shed. My preference is for this one to be right rather than rushed.
             
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              This was (and still is) the base of our teahouse, I built in 1987.

              You can see it's quite a bit off the ground, In fact I added more supports bricks on half paving slabs, after taking this photo. That and the "skirts" that don't touch the ground has ensured it has had nearly 32 rot-free years.



              Sheds usually rot from the ground up. Or from the top if the cheap roofing felt supplied with some sheds develops a tear.
              Anyone else following this thread and thinking about either buying or building one might like to consider this.

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              After all this time it has no problem supporting the weight of two near 3cwt jukeboxes.
              So under there it must still be pretty solid.
               
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                Having thought about it again - using engineering bricks is going to surely make it a hell of a challenge to get the floor bearers to land on the bricks in toward the middle? I think @pete is right - whack it on breeze blocks that have a bit of DPC on the top, and even if the blocks are not in a dead straight line, you are still bound to land on them? Going by that, would half a dozen across the width of each bearer be sufficient?
                 
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                Sounds more than enough to me, that's about 18" gap between them. You are planning on placing them flat for better stability?
                 
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                  Yes - that would give a good few inches as a contact patch between the floor bearer and the block. I thought I could use a wee spot of silicone just to hold the DPC onto the top of the block until we get the floor down onto it - if the silicone subsequently fails/moves/tears that wouldn't matter a jot at that point, as its sole purpose in life would be to stop the DPC blowing away until we got the shed down onto it.
                   
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                  Just thought, if you have anything heavy that you need to move in and out of the shed you will need to make a removable ramp because of the height. I don't suppose that you have anything as heavy as the mower we have but I have a ramp for it. I'm not sure that I would be able to manoeuvre it up an 18" high ramp. :scratch:
                   
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                    Isn't 18" the width between breeze blocks? The height off the ground in total would be 6 to 8"

                    (4" for the breeze block laid on it's side plus bearers plus floor/door threshold)
                     
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                      :noidea: :)
                       
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                        Aye, on breeze blocks it would be about 6-8 inches, so more of a step rather than a climb. That might be a good excuse for me to finally use my mitre saw properly, and make a wee ramp. I bought it a few years ago, and have used it, but only for making straight cuts on basic stuff. That might be a nice wee project (that I can add to the back of the list, after repairing the toilet, renewing silcone seals on doors and windows, repairing two cracks in the front door, repairing a PIR light, servicing the car, redecorating the entire house and sorting the garden - all of which I will be doing with tons of help).......... :biggrin:
                         
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                          So what will you do in the second hour? :scratch:
                           
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